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Ach the gaelic, well the wee.. Comments erased by wife ooooh
RISE NOW AND BE A NATION AGAIN !
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Toddy
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Well vote yes then, I would if I were Scottish.
However forget using our currency and thinking you can have any influence over it, prepare for the rUK to close down any military bases in Scotland, don't expect to be able to view the BBC, expect the rUK government to cancel any government contracts and award them to companies based at home, take your share of the current national debt in full from day one and get ready for your tax rises in order that Scotland can afford it's own armed forces, police, education system, welfare state etc etc. I wonder if Uni's will continue to be free?
Genuinely good luck to Scotland if they vote to go independent. However only if it is TOTAL independence with them not expecting or receiving one British penny in support. Take one British penny and don't try to kid yourselves you are independent.
However forget using our currency and thinking you can have any influence over it, prepare for the rUK to close down any military bases in Scotland, don't expect to be able to view the BBC, expect the rUK government to cancel any government contracts and award them to companies based at home, take your share of the current national debt in full from day one and get ready for your tax rises in order that Scotland can afford it's own armed forces, police, education system, welfare state etc etc. I wonder if Uni's will continue to be free?
Genuinely good luck to Scotland if they vote to go independent. However only if it is TOTAL independence with them not expecting or receiving one British penny in support. Take one British penny and don't try to kid yourselves you are independent.
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Why are they bluffing? They don't have to share the pound. If the rUK chooses to let the IOM use it then that's up to them, if they decide they don't want to share it with an independent Scotland then tough shit. To continue demanding that it will be used and not having any other plan when they have been clearly told it won't be is pretty stupid. Go be independent, fully independent, don't try and pretend to be independent whilst taking or using anything of someone else's.
I like the sound of that, can we have some of it in England please?
Toddy, the bird has flown, the horse has bolted with the stable door wide open, the horse is dead and you keep flogging it - and I am sure there are a few more cliches that are appropriate. The decision has been made and it is not going to happen no matter how many cut and pastes you find. You need an alternative plan and it is obvious that the Nats do not have one. Salmond's assertion in his speech to business leaders that when the Ayes have it then miraculously George Osborne will change his mind is pure whimsy and fantasy with no basis in fact whatsoever. He is a man at the roulette table and his chips are bankrolled by the Scottish populations' savings, pensions and investments and he is obviously prepared to take a massive gamble with your cash.
Of course he is, he's built his entire political career on this shameful and deceitful campaign for "independence". If he really thought that independence was good for Scotland he wouldn't be tugging at the hem of mummy EU.
Its a British Crown Dependancy so your wrong.
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True, it's not part of the UK. The Isle of Man prints its own currency but, by adhering to rules laid down by the UK Treasury (e.g. alignment of VAT rates), it pegs its pound to the pound Sterling so you can change 1;1 in banks in the UK. On the Island, you can spend Sterling in shops. That's the Island's choice: shops could start accepting Libyan Dinar if they wish. You can't spend Manx currency in the UK anywhere I know of. It's a separate currency which just happens to trade internationally at the same rate as Sterling.
Aligning currency rates between countries is nothing new. Fairly recently, the Netherlands did this for years against the German D-Mark before the Euro was introduced. However, all the onus was on the Netherlands to control interest rates and goverment spending to achieve this. Germany wasn't bothered either way.
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You should also be aware of the protection available to Isle of Man savers who do not have the protection of the Bank of England. They have a Depositor Compensation Scheme or DCS. This is a quote from their site.
"There is no standing fund for the DCS
The DCS is funded, if and when required, by contributions from banks in the Isle of Man that are participants in the DCS (to a net amount outstanding of £100 million in any consecutive 10 year period and £200m for all defaults) and money from the Isle of Man Treasury (to a net amount outstanding of £100 million in any consecutive 10 year period). Therefore the amount contributed by banks and the Isle of Man Treasury together is limited to £200 million outstanding at any one time, no matter how many bank failures (defaults) may take place. The Manager of the DCS may (but does not have to, or may not be able to) borrow money.
This means that in the event of a very large bank failing, or in a systemic crisis, the DCS is unlikely to be in a position to provide the full amount of compensation due to you in a timely manner.
If Scotland went down the same route as the Isle of Man the same would apply here. If you think there is the slightest chance of Scotland breaking from the rest of the UK take your money out of whatever Scottish bank it is in before independence because the queue to get it out after might be very long. That is the sort of gamble Eck wants you to sign up for.
Here is what a run on the banks looks like in real life. I think this was a small country who relied on oil wealth and tried to maintain parity with a bigger neighbour's currency. The fact that the run was caused in part by false rumours on social media sites makes no difference to the end result. http://www.eurasianet.org/node/68060
"There is no standing fund for the DCS
The DCS is funded, if and when required, by contributions from banks in the Isle of Man that are participants in the DCS (to a net amount outstanding of £100 million in any consecutive 10 year period and £200m for all defaults) and money from the Isle of Man Treasury (to a net amount outstanding of £100 million in any consecutive 10 year period). Therefore the amount contributed by banks and the Isle of Man Treasury together is limited to £200 million outstanding at any one time, no matter how many bank failures (defaults) may take place. The Manager of the DCS may (but does not have to, or may not be able to) borrow money.
This means that in the event of a very large bank failing, or in a systemic crisis, the DCS is unlikely to be in a position to provide the full amount of compensation due to you in a timely manner.
If Scotland went down the same route as the Isle of Man the same would apply here. If you think there is the slightest chance of Scotland breaking from the rest of the UK take your money out of whatever Scottish bank it is in before independence because the queue to get it out after might be very long. That is the sort of gamble Eck wants you to sign up for.
Here is what a run on the banks looks like in real life. I think this was a small country who relied on oil wealth and tried to maintain parity with a bigger neighbour's currency. The fact that the run was caused in part by false rumours on social media sites makes no difference to the end result. http://www.eurasianet.org/node/68060
MacFarlane
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The precious pound, I've already a seen prototype design of the new Scottish pound, it still has the Queen on it, but she's getting pounded
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Bullying
So the SNP accuse rUK and Europe of bullying
While UKGser continues to be bullied by Toddy's mastur-pasting
But really isn't it the Yes campaign who are guilty
Real Scots vote for independence, plastic Scots vote no
Just wait and see what the Union will do to Scotland if the vote is no
Hmmm...
So the SNP accuse rUK and Europe of bullying
While UKGser continues to be bullied by Toddy's mastur-pasting
But really isn't it the Yes campaign who are guilty
Real Scots vote for independence, plastic Scots vote no
Just wait and see what the Union will do to Scotland if the vote is no
Hmmm...
Toddy
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Business is starting to move - south
Lloyds has moved the TSB part of its business into a new holding company to be registered in England ahead of it's stock market float.
Who would invest if it was registered in Scotland amongst the current lack of economic plan
Lloyds has moved the TSB part of its business into a new holding company to be registered in England ahead of it's stock market float.
Who would invest if it was registered in Scotland amongst the current lack of economic plan
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Yep and when we have learnt how to bake shortbread you'll be truly fucked because we'll have no reason at all to bankroll your benefits system and free uni's.
Please do the rUK a favour and vote YES
Toddy
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It's getting really silly now
David Cameron wants to keep the Queen as well as the pound...
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/46...ext-Queen-of-Scotland-after-independence-vote
David Cameron wants to keep the Queen as well as the pound...
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/46...ext-Queen-of-Scotland-after-independence-vote
Please vote YES and feck off.
I'm fed up with all this crap about independence.
Maybe the UK should have a vote.
Call it the " Do we want anything to do with Scotland anymore" vote!
I'm fed up with all this crap about independence.
Maybe the UK should have a vote.
Call it the " Do we want anything to do with Scotland anymore" vote!
morty
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Please vote YES and feck off.
I'm fed up with all this crap about independence.
Maybe the UK should have a vote.
Call it the " Do we want anything to do with Scotland anymore" vote!
i’ve started a new vote, captain black is a knob so why don’t you feck off
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