So how reliable is the 1200 really?

[snip] One brake down in all those miles and that was the fuel pump thingy at 31000.( I now carry a spare)

When I bought it if they said in the next 42k you will have one brake down I would have still got it.

Things brake, thats life.:nenau [snip]
You're the second person to say something similar and I don't understand the response. I'm fully aware things break. When they do I get them repaired just like the rectifier in my Hayabusa that failed when the bike had done 500 miles. The thing is I don't know anyone else who has had a rectifier failure on that model so it's an uncommon fault, I was just unlucky and am more than happy to forget about it.

If lots of people had had a similar problem that would be indicative of an unreliable part and I would expect Suzuki to replace them as Yamaha did with the centre stand on my FJR. If several parts break regularly on a bike then I would consider the bike itself to be unreliable and I don't want one.

What I'm trying to establish with the cross-section of 1200GS owners on this forum is whether the 1200GS is considered unreliable. On balance it seems there are more happy owners than unhappy owners but given the information I had received from several sources it's not an unreasonable question for me to ask, is it? :nenau

Re. the fuel pump, funnily enough it was the fuel pump that failed on our 1150 when we were wandering. If you consider it necessary to carry a spare that's indicative to me that that you consider it to be an unreliable part which is a factor for consideration albeit you are a sample size of one.

Kevin
 
You're the second person to say something similar and I don't understand the response. I'm fully aware things break. When they do I get them repaired just like the rectifier in my Hayabusa that failed when the bike had done 500 miles. The thing is I don't know anyone else who has had a rectifier failure on that model so it's an uncommon fault, I was just unlucky and am more than happy to forget about it.

If lots of people had had a similar problem that would be indicative of an unreliable part and I would expect Suzuki to replace them as Yamaha did with the centre stand on my FJR. If several parts break regularly on a bike then I would consider the bike itself to be unreliable and I don't want one.

What I'm trying to establish with the cross-section of 1200GS owners on this forum is whether the 1200GS is considered unreliable. On balance it seems there are more happy owners than unhappy owners but given the information I had received from several sources it's not an unreasonable question for me to ask, is it? :nenau

Re. the fuel pump, funnily enough it was the fuel pump that failed on our 1150 when we were wandering. If you consider it necessary to carry a spare that's indicative to me that that you consider it to be an unreliable part which is a factor for consideration albeit you are a sample size of one.

Kevin

Hi Kevin

I've had some of the "normal" issues with my 1200 (May 05, 30,000 miles) but only one of them - failed fuel pump controller - left me stranded and only a flat battery left me stuck at home once. These are frustrations, undoubtedly, and should not be issues on a perceived top-end bike, and one sold as being capable of riding round the world. Engine plate corrosion has been fixed (twice) under warranty, failed oil seals (gearbox and alternator drive) sorted under goodwill.

By "normal", you do need to take into account that I imagine the majority of bikes have not had any of these issues, but we are more likely to become aware of those that do. So even though they are more common, maybe they are still rare (if that makes sense).

However, I wouldn't hesitate to buy another because I like the bike so much. The fuel pump controller issue may not recur but the worry is solved by buying a spare for £70 and bunging it in the top box. I consider it to be an unreliable part, based on my bike's failure but also the number of people on here who have suffered similarly, but it is fairly easily resolved.

Do I consider my bike unreliable? No, not at all. Even though the fuel pump issue left me stranded in Austria on holiday in July 2007, it didn't for a moment make me worry about going on a trip to Spain in Summer 2008, nor do I worry about it at all when riding day to day, whether it's an hour on a Sunday, a weekend in Belgium, or a day trip to Gloucester. I have breakdown cover, but I also have breakdown and recovery cover on my cars, and I really can't remember the last time a car left me stranded!

So, it's not been perfect, but even accepting that, I can't think of another bike I'd rather have, even assuming that another model would be 100% reliable. It becomes a very individual choice for each owner whether you'd rather have a "flawed" GS or a perfect ZZR or whatever.

I prefer the 1200 to the 1150, although it is a slightly different "feel" and I can understand why some prefer the 1150. Incidentally, my previous bike was an 1150, also owned from new, and that was not without its problems and warranty claims.

The dealership issue isn't brilliant around here, is it? Coopers in Tunbridge Wells are the nearest and I've used them for servicing (while it was in warranty) and warranty repairs. I bought the bike from a now-defunct dealer in Bexley. There's a good independent mechanic called Brian Giles, also near Tunbridge Wells, who I've used as well and comes recommended. But it's still a fair old trek to get there. A few people use BMW dealers in France - Arras, I believe - for servicing, so that's perhaps an option for you?

On the positive side, servicing and maintenance at home is relatively simple - now the warranty cover is no longer an issue, I do all the basics myself, and use Brian for more complicated stuff (so far, just ABS related work).

Robin.
 
I was a big 1150 fan, until I bought the 1200 that is.

Best bike I have owned by none. The regular issues (FPC) can be fixed and the only issue I have is with the terrible rear shock.

I consider it to be the perfect bike. Mine's an old '05 with 39k on the clock but I love it to bits. I honestly can't think of a single think that I could or want to make better on it, other than replacing the rear shock.

At the end of the day the only thing wrong with the 1150 was the weight.
 
R1200GS

Had mine a few years. i'm 54,6' 2"..15st. first objective was comfort for days out/overseas riding.reliability? is there such a thing? all things break,it's a lottery. mine did my battery in,but after a couple of stints off due to ops on knee and shoulder,perhaps it was my fault?...other than that,it's german!...it does what it say's on the tin.love mine.do 300 miles/3-4 hours a stint before i get kneelock!.then again,i feel that's long enuff in the saddle without a break?
 
Still happy

I'm not one of you really high-mileage boys, having done only 10k miles in 18 months (but that's two winters, only one summer). I do business trips to southern Ireland and go on the bike mostly.

Occasionally I get funny brake messages on starting and have to re-boot, but that's the sum of my problems. I would head off on a 1,000 mile trip without a single qualm or further precaution. If I were heading off into the wild, then I'd investigate a list of desirable spares, I suppose, but would't worry in mainland Europe.

If the 1200GS was as poor as WIndows XP, I'd be riding something else by now, but if the laptop was as good as the bike, I'd be a very happy man. I make a good chunk of my living out of the complexity and unreliability of Microsoft. What I could make out of problems with this bike wouldn't cover a weekend's drinking.

Might flirt with an RT next time though.
 
As previously said people tend to post problems so it may be that fact that tends to over exaggerate the reliability issues.

I went into ownership with my eyes open and had researched the EWS, Fuel pump controller, shaft drive failure and engine blow ups!!

However I loved the look of the GSA and its all round ability and after a 2 day test it was a done deal

I've only covered 2500 miles which as expected have been trouble free and I absolutely love the bike

It may break down it may not but thats the case with any machine you buy
 
I've had my '05 1200 since new. I've had the FPC go,an undiagnosed brake servo problem and a flat battery, nothing else. If I weren't so attached to mine I'd buy another.
 
Is there a better bike for YOUR purpose?

If I thought I could find a bike that would give me more satisfaction than my (second) 1200GS I would buy it! Well, not really because here in France bike prices are astronomical compared to the UK at the moment.
If you want a bike for many different purposes ("polyvalent" they say here) I cannot think of anything more suitable - if you can manage it! I say that because if you are a 'little guy' you need to be tough!
I thought that the 1150 was a fantastic bike and enjoyed mine for a couple of years BUT the 1200 is far superior in many ways. If you try one and are not convinced then go back to your 1150 - which will feel a bit lorry like.
No reliability issues with either the 1150 or the 1299 - but they are/were serviced by a first class dealer.
 
I normally don't look at these threads .........

They are tedious and contain contributions by the usual suspects

But I am feeling that I am missing out on problems and whinging about them.

Had my R1200GS for two years and ridden 19,000miles without any problems. I seem to remember the dealer saying something about replacing an antenne at the last service. I rode down the road on the way home thinking that I didn't know my bike had a radio but was embrarassed to ask the dealer how to switch it on.

Owned three Ducati’s which never let me down and I will a have another one.

Owned a Harley for six years and enjoyed it with no problems.

Upgraded my PC from XP to Vista and now prefer Vista.

Got a MAC and a PC and like both.

Got made redundant and found another job.

What is the matter with me ? I am now feeling inadequate because I don't break things. Am I trying hard enough ?
 
Waste of a thread

If you don't want one don't buy one.

I totally agree with JohnnyOldBoy theses threads are tedious and bring up the same old crap!

All things have the odd problem but most don't give the fun and enjoyment that 99.9% of 1200 riders enjoy every day of the year.
 
If you don't want one don't buy one.

I totally agree with JohnnyOldBoy theses threads are tedious and bring up the same old crap!

All things have the odd problem but most don't give the fun and enjoyment that 99.9% of 1200 riders enjoy every day of the year.
If you don't want to read this (type of) thread then don't read it. No-one's twisting your arm and, despite what you may believe to the contrary, it really isn't compulsory.

With the odd exception, your post included, this, and a corresponding thread on the KTM forum, have been very useful for me and I'm grateful to everyone who has provided information.

Kevin
 
If you don't want to read this (type of) thread then don't read it.

+1:thumb2

everyone who is a subscriber/member is entitled to ask their questions, however ridiculous it might seem to others, as things change and the 1200 is a 4 year old model now and their is a time span of experience to be queried for those interested....

always ask a question. doesn't matter how silly or stupid it might seem there will a always be someone on here who respects it an tries to answer it:thumb2
 
Subject to a test ride on both the KTM and the GS that doesn't demonstrate the 1200 is extremely uncomfortable and the KTM like an armchair, I'm coming down on the 1200GS side over the KTM at the moment. Now it appears I may be able to fit on a GSA I wonder what the reaction in certain quarters to a 1200GS or GSA? thread is going to be? ;)
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I expect I'm joking. I couldn't find a comparable thread to this one but I'd be surprised if there isn't a GS vs. GSA thread which will answer my questions.

Kevin
 
ive a friend who has a 1200 on an 05 plate that bike has now coverd over 70,000miles complete with a couple of spankings across morroco its been used as his sole means of transport for work and play.been dropped twice on diesel spills, but it just keeps running and has never given him a problem:thumb2

i had a KTM990ADV for a year coverd just over 14,000miles on it with one minor electrical problem (a corroded plug) an amazing bike if a little brutal to live with day in day out:augie

im now back on an 1150 GSA why ? as fanum says its just right for me:thumb2 i cant really say its under powerd it will still hitch up its skirts and run when needed and comfy at 90mph cruising i need no more:thumb
 
Oh the irony! There I am, saying I've not had many problems with my 1200 and that I'd buy another, when what happens today? Dead battery. I was all set to go and have goodies I've just bought fitted, but now I have a parrot bike....dead. I think it might be because I switched the ignition on and off very quickly yesterday, and the computer's gone haywire. My fault entirely.









I'd still buy another though.
 


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