tell me about your 1190

On a different subject, is anybody's 1190 using coolant? My expansion tank was just about empty and I've just bunged in approx 300ml to bring it back to the same level as 700 miles ago. I think I'll keep a bit more of a beady eye on it for a while.

Andres

Just noticed mine is rather low, there's no apparent leaks anywhere.
 
My coolant is the same. I have had to top it up 2 or 3 times over the last 5K miles, but can't find any leaks. Something to be aware of on long trips bearing in mind you can't just top up with water.
 
keen to hear what it's like.

i did a bit of motorway at the w/e and the buffeting was rattling my head at speed. i have the "touring screen" on it's lowest position and normally, it's ok, but i couldn't put up with that for 500 miles.

Well, I had a very cold ride out into Derbyshire today and purposefully did some M Way miles to see what it's like.

I settled on having it on the highest setting but not brought back towards me as the adjustment mechanism allows you to at the top of it's movement.
Definitely not still air, presumably because there is a big gap around the head light at the high setting :nenau but the air flow was comfortable, steady and no buffeting at all. Still a bit noisy but not in the same loud league as the standard R screen.

The best comparison I can think of is that it was similar to my vanilla GS screen and is, for me, that is fine. Reading some of the 'screen' threads on here in the WBM section though I'm not sure it'd pass muster for those that want RT type protection from the elements :nenau although, a good sign was looking at the speedo and being somewhat surprised how fast I'd been sat at given that my speed sense was calibrated by how noisy/windy the bike normally is :D

Fat'n'fast reckoned it might be a Powerbronze screen :nenau If so I hope it was a prototype as the quality is pretty poor; the mounting holes are poorly positioned/angled which has resulted in cracking when mounting the screen (yes I was VERY careful) - no reflection on the sale though as it was cheap and I'll defo be using the screen.

Is it worth having? Yeah, I think so for long cold, wet slogs but (and it's a personal thing) I really don't like screens and I think come summer the sleek, sexy, smoked one goes back on. Even when doing long M Way hauls.

Did I mention it's really fecking ugly? :D

Andres
 
hmmm

i think i need to do some more experimenting with the touring screen raised, then maybe a secondary lip thing attached.

KTM say this screen is designed in a wind tunnel, but i suspect they never turned it on.
 
Its strange i use the ktm touring screen with no problems at all , visor up speeds 90mph no bother.Ive also got puig high screen and the standard r short one, so if anybody wants to try any of them please get in touch.
 
Losing coolant does not seem at all unusual judging by advrider posts. Touch wood, mine's not used any, or any oil either.
 
I've also seen a few posts on forums about head bearings working loose. Mine have a tiny knock in them (only noticed it lowering it off a dyno ramp last week - rolling the bike backwards dabbing the front brake), I phoned the dealer today and they were more than helpful - 'yep bring it in ... we'll take a look straight away .. ' :thumb2
 
Hi Giles
How was it on the dyno was it lean?what power was it please I may do my exhausts.

Thanks

Andrew
 
Hi Giles
How was it on the dyno was it lean?what power was it please I may do my exhausts.

Thanks

Andrew

Andres has been badgering me to write up my findings which I will do in due course, but I need to have a proper play on it first.

But in a nut shell ....

I de-catted the bike and put a wings exhaust on before it's 600 mile service, and let my dealer know. (To their credit, they didn't bat an eye lid and said they'd run it up on there dyno and check it). They were quite happy and said that the intelligent ecu has re worked the fuelling and they had no concerns. (Good to know my dealer has a sensible approach and hasn't sucked his teeth and thrown the warranty get out of jail card at me - they were completely unfazed .. :thumb2).

However ... I have since had it re-mapped at Hilltop. As you probably know from all the hilltop threads, global emission testing means that bikes from the factory are naturally lean. I can't remember what the figures are (and I wouldn't know what part per hundred what's of what make up the air / fuel ratio ...), but it was 'factory' lean as you'd expect. Geoff has corrected this and given the bike a new map.

So the A/F mix is now richer (and boy does it feel better for it - the fuelling is just an absolute delight) and the bike is now 132bhp at the back wheel (Torque 84.5 ft/lb) with the most wonderful linear torque curve.

Let me have a play when the roads aren't constantly wet, and I'll report back more thoroughly .. :thumb2
 
hmmm

i think i need to do some more experimenting with the touring screen raised, then maybe a secondary lip thing attached.

KTM say this screen is designed in a wind tunnel, but i suspect they never turned it on.

I have a Puig lip on my touring screen. It has improved matters somewhat, but still not what I would call good. The noise is what bothers me, and it doesn't seem to make any difference whether I have the screen in the high position or the lowest, so I keep it at its lowest as i don't like tall screens anyway.
Some years ago I had a 1200GS and I put a 1200GSA screen on it thinking it would be a huge improvement over the standard GS screen, but it was a bit of a disappointment. Then I added the BMW winglets - these were a transformation!
 
...So the A/F mix is now richer (and boy does it feel better for it - the fuelling is just an absolute delight) and the bike is now 132bhp at the back wheel (Torque 84.5 ft/lb) with the most wonderful linear torque curve....

Out of curiosity and for comparison, do you happen to know what the pre-remapping original rear wheel bhp figure was?
 
Out of curiosity and for comparison, do you happen to know what the pre-remapping original rear wheel bhp figure was?

My first run at Geoffs was about 120bhp, but I would say that was a pretty tame run. I read a link the other day having googled something like 'do different dynos give different readings?' and generally read that you can get false reading / low readings with first runs / cold bike runs etc etc. (of course that then makes gains half an hour later or so look all the more impressive - not that Geoff has done that deliberately, but he didn't properly cane the bike on its first run ... which is probably quite a good mechanically sympathetic thing to do ..).
Most peepes are making about 127 I think judging by the journo tests.

For me, the benefit of a remap is all about the fuelling, and how a bike feels in yer throttle hand. I don't give a hoot if I only get four or five more horses, I'm after a map that irons out all those dips and sticky low pick up snatches (the 990 was notorious for that) and a better torque curve, and of course fuelling that is not so lean.

I'll report back in a week or so ... :thumb
 
Giles - have you played with the suspension set up at all? I've only had a 45 minute test blast on each of the standard and R versions and much preferred the R. I like the route you have gone down with the cat and remap, that would / will be my choice. I'm going to try the 1290 thingy first and then have a long look at my pennies and see which one mrs me likes. I'm (fingers crossed - just working on getting some training and company orientation done) starting a new job and a completely new career in the next few weeks and this is the carrot on the stick, a big orange zoom of a carrot, so to speak...
 
Giles - have you played with the suspension set up at all? I've only had a 45 minute test blast on each of the standard and R versions and much preferred the R. I like the route you have gone down with the cat and remap, that would / will be my choice. I'm going to try the 1290 thingy first and then have a long look at my pennies and see which one mrs me likes. I'm (fingers crossed - just working on getting some training and company orientation done) starting a new job and a completely new career in the next few weeks and this is the carrot on the stick, a big orange zoom of a carrot, so to speak...


In terms of set up .... yes, I'm trying, but it's a dark art that I know very little about. I'm sort of getting there, but I'd still like to soften the clack / bang of little pot holes, drain covers, abrupt changes of surface etc. Oh to be a guru that can sort the differences between spring pre-load, tyre pressures, re-bound damping and then a variation of all three etc etc ... :nenau

Imagine the skill that some of the development riders must have at moto GP level where they feel errors in a bike, and decipher all the possibilities of geometry, swing arm length, centre of gravity, suspension settings, fork length, rake, trail, stiffness, flex .. etc etc and bit by bit build a brilliant handling bike ... :cool:

I reckon the 1290 will be a cracking bike, but not for me yet. I still want to play on something a tad lighter with an off road capability ... :thumb2


Andres ... I'm here at the moment ... but none the wiser .. :D

 
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Andres ... I'm here at the moment ... but none the wiser .. :D

Blimey, you've have been playing haven't you!

As you know I've started to tweak mine with the front end defo improved by a bit more compression dampinging and a smidgen more rebound. I've not really done it very scientifically though TBH and haven't looked at the back at all.

I'm planning to get properly stuck in this coming weekend as long as it stays reasonbly dry though. Starting off with setting up the sag and going from there.

I really don't pretend to be any sort of an expert when it comes to suspension but my method is normally to start with setting sag as acuratly as possible and then winding everything back nice and soft. Then, working on one parameter at a time winding it up harder and harder until it feels too hard. I then wind it back a smidgen. This becomes my 'base' setting from which I then make small tweaks (or, if I'm honest, just leave the settings there.........).

When I've got some settings that I'm reasonably happy with I'll post them up in your 'suspension' thread :)

Andres
 


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