Two nations divided by a common language - I always thought was supposed to be the UK and the USA.
It's not just language though, there's a definite cultural divide.
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Two nations divided by a common language - I always thought was supposed to be the UK and the USA.
It's not just language though, there's a definite cultural divide.
Northern Norway Nov - Feb.
Thank's bhud.
I will look into cheap options to get to Norway. Exeter airport has a flight that goes over the Shetlands in December that apparently offers a 60% chance of seeing the lights and costs £199 but I would prefer to see them from the ground.
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Thank's bhud.
The lights are certainly a spectical well worth seeing but I think that a 60% chance of seeing them during any given flight over the islands between any given dates is perhaps a tad optimistic.
I feel fortunate that I have seen them about 20 times in 45 years.
Question for them whats knows more about North Sea oil than what I does: how long will it last at current rates of production? Not an exact science I know, depending on all sorts of factors, but it will start to decline in production in what, roughly: years? decades? centuries?
If the Scotlandish people want their freedom from FEBdom then that's absolutely fine by me - I can see why. But, judging on the posts here, basing the argument on a finite resource that's only going to pay the bills for a couple of dozen years seems a bit short-sighted.
Otherwise, you'd better start selling a shitload of shortbread and whiskey...
If the Scotlandish people want their freedom from FEBdom then that's absolutely fine by me - I can see why. But, judging on the posts here, basing the argument on a finite resource that's only going to pay the bills for a couple of dozen years seems a bit short-sighted.
Otherwise, you'd better start selling a shitload of shortbread and whiskey...
Most folk on here know that I'm English and some will know that I've lived in Scotland for over 25 years. I have a lot of sympathy with Scots who want independence from the rest of the UK. A long time ago they were treated very badly by the English and are still regularly slighted by the English and English dominated press. Despite this treatment or maybe because of it Scotland has consistently punched well above it's weight in so many arenas over the centuries. You can even say thank you to Scotland for the Bank of England.
However, I don't know any business people that think Scotland should withdraw from the Union, although doubtless many will now put their heads above the ramparts, and there is always the worry about the alternative. I have heard the phrase "independence within the EU" on many occasions or "independence in Europe". Now as far as I can see the power to govern the UK is steadily being surrendered to the EU and it would appear that the goal of many Eurocrats is a federal United States of Europe. If the strength of the United Kingdom is insufficient to ensure we retain our sovereign power how will Scotland fare on its own?
It is clear that Scots regularly rise to the top of the pile in politics, industry, education as well as many other spheres and wield extraordinary influence within the UK which can only be good for Scotland. Could they do the same in the USoE? The Union is far from perfect but would the USoE be any better?
Lastly to address a point made by tonyk "..it confuses me why you persist in voting for a conservative government that strives to keep you tied up in your own class war with yourselves."
What are the alternatives? The Socialists fail to understand nursery grade fiscal management and always spend more money than they have lifted from our pockets resulting in near economic disaster. The Liberals act like political whores that haven't been elected on a majority for getting on one hundred years so fall into bed with whichever party is most likely to succeed or suit them best. The Liberals also have some downright frightening ideas of how our country should be run including a solid commitment and closer ties to the EU.
However, I don't know any business people that think Scotland should withdraw from the Union, although doubtless many will now put their heads above the ramparts, and there is always the worry about the alternative. I have heard the phrase "independence within the EU" on many occasions or "independence in Europe". Now as far as I can see the power to govern the UK is steadily being surrendered to the EU and it would appear that the goal of many Eurocrats is a federal United States of Europe. If the strength of the United Kingdom is insufficient to ensure we retain our sovereign power how will Scotland fare on its own?
It is clear that Scots regularly rise to the top of the pile in politics, industry, education as well as many other spheres and wield extraordinary influence within the UK which can only be good for Scotland. Could they do the same in the USoE? The Union is far from perfect but would the USoE be any better?
Lastly to address a point made by tonyk "..it confuses me why you persist in voting for a conservative government that strives to keep you tied up in your own class war with yourselves."
What are the alternatives? The Socialists fail to understand nursery grade fiscal management and always spend more money than they have lifted from our pockets resulting in near economic disaster. The Liberals act like political whores that haven't been elected on a majority for getting on one hundred years so fall into bed with whichever party is most likely to succeed or suit them best. The Liberals also have some downright frightening ideas of how our country should be run including a solid commitment and closer ties to the EU.
Congratulations. Have you got your tartan card yet, the one that allows permanent residence?
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Hebby
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the perfect example right on cue, everything that is wrong with you're compatriots in one post, it's not the workshy or immigrants that have spoiled your country. its precisely these backward views
It would seem that rednecks are not just an American phenomenon
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Seeing the aurora is best from Oct. through the winter. Type into google Aurora Watch. you should get a university site that will email you when there is activity. The American NOAA site also has a section.
Seeing the aurora is best from Oct. through the winter. Type into google Aurora Watch. you should get a university site that will email you when there is activity. The American NOAA site also has a section.
Thank's for the info. I think I will try to get to Norway next winter. I will fit it in with a bit of sea fishing as well, so if I am unlucky and do not see the Northern Lights, the trip will still have a purpose. Time to start saving
You got him there Schtum.......ther best form of fishing - well done
Yes, I wish I could be as profound. Nothing to do with having had a few drams during the evening is it?
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If independence was done properly and we became like Norway, Lichtenstein or Switzerland it would be just fine.
The problem is that the fuc king imbeciles in Holyrood would be crawling up the arse of the Euro lot and that truly would be the end.
As he said. Fuk knows why they are so keen to get so deep into Europe, just giving away power to a remote control centre - and we can all see one of the possible effects of partial central control going on just now
Interesting article here: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/b...-far-gone-to-be-saved-by-cameron-or-miliband/
The comments at the bottom make interesting reading.
Imho the massive financial storm gathering over Europe will be the most important history maker, not the weasel words from the political pygmies in power at the moment. If the storm breaks and the West's financial system collapses, Union or no Union will seem unimportant for a year or two.
The comments at the bottom make interesting reading.
Imho the massive financial storm gathering over Europe will be the most important history maker, not the weasel words from the political pygmies in power at the moment. If the storm breaks and the West's financial system collapses, Union or no Union will seem unimportant for a year or two.
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