theft of 1200 info
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No its not,
Hates_
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Compeltely agree with Wapping 
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For my sins, I drive a Lothian bus, And see the thieving scum daily and the police do nothing.
I think it's about time the law changed, If someone gets caught in or on a stolen vehicle they should lose there entitlement to drive perminatly.. if their caught a second time, jail them 5years. The softy softy approach does not work, time the police/government realised it.
Don't worry, if it's gone I'll find you another two on Tuesday, it won't take long. Seriously, do you believe someone (presumably in SE England, reasonably close to central London) is going to chance on the post, think to themselves, "Mate, I've chanced on a blue 1200 GS in EC3, I can't believe my eyes" and then leap into action to nick it then and there?
The cnuts don't need to be told where they are, they can find just about any motorbike they like, unsecured and just begging to be nicked.
From the corner of Muscovy Street*, there are a least four motorcycle bays within five minutes walk. Each will have at a conservative estimate three to four unsecured motorbikes, all say no more than two to three years old, often newer. That's 12 to 16 motorcycles at say 10 grand each. That's £120,000 to £160,000 worth sitting there each working day, between say 08:30 and 18:00. Alongside each bay there are loading bays for trucks, delivery vans, bods on bicycles, building sites for new offices, people wandering about all and any (or none) are scumbags.... and I haven't yet crossed Fenchurch Street or troubled myself to go into the large underground car park beneath the Marsh building. I can do both in 10 minutes, so now double or triple those numbers. Give me 15 minutes to walk and I'll be at Bank by which time I could well be up to three quarters of a million.... and that's just the totally unsecured bikes, without even a very basic disc lock.... and I've covered what? Maybe only a quarter of the Square Mile... next stop Holborn.... or shall I hit the West End... or Clapham... or Camden.... up to Barnet or down to Barnes.... millions of pounds worth, all easy to nick, with no more effort than that.... and bods moan that it's someone else's fault?
* I walk past it at least twice a day. I can tell you near enough when the 125 KTM (it's very clean) arrives and near enough when it goes home. I can tell you that the Polish bloke at least puts a disk lock on his grey 1200 each day. The bloke with the very clean automatic Honda VFR (white) does feck all. The brand new blue Triumph Explorer owner really goes to town, so I'll leave his bike alone but I'll have a go at the red Ducati Monster as I'll be able to flog off his trick pipes, the rest of it I'll just chuck in the Thames or rag around on, instead of the scooter I nicked yesterday. I did those just from memory from two bays, 50 yards apart.
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I think it's the old thought of "it'll never happen to me" but it certainly can. Sometimes I'm amazed by folks carelessness, maybe more money than sense and maybe it just shows they have no thought or care for their possessions.
Mine were always bought by the sweat of my brow so to speak and hopefully even in my dotage I'll take care of my old girl even though I've had a couple of nearlies with forgetting about the disc you know lock. Now I put the curly wurley thingy in with my bike keys.
Mine were always bought by the sweat of my brow so to speak and hopefully even in my dotage I'll take care of my old girl even though I've had a couple of nearlies with forgetting about the disc you know lock. Now I put the curly wurley thingy in with my bike keys.
Insurance pays out, so just order another
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Wapping, I understand your frustration but why not turn that into a positive and be more constructive with it. You clearly walk past many unprotected bikes in central London. Why not make up a flyer with all the facts and figures of bike theft, highlighting that a simple disc lock will probably deter them. Leave a flyer on each bike you pass.
It might actually work and remind people not to be so trusting, you'll feel better because you've done something nice and we won't have your frustrated rants using the word bods.
It might actually work and remind people not to be so trusting, you'll feel better because you've done something nice and we won't have your frustrated rants using the word bods.
I cannot see him doing this, if bods are stupid enough to leave their bikes unlocked and secured, then so be it
It's a sad indictment of society and people's attitudes today that they think it's OK to call victims cnuts. I happen to agree with the thrust of Waaping's argument, but his attitude to victims is utterly deplorable and blatant self interest as he feels it pushes his premiums up. His tacit acceptance of this crime is depressing. Yes, people ought to take reasonable care but let's blame the real cnuts - the thieving bastards who think it's OK to steal. And the bleeding heart liberals who think that because one thieving bastard fell off while being pursued by police means that the police shouldn't chase them anymore. And the vast majority of weak people who will probably just walk past while a bike is very clearly brazenly being stolen in broad daylight. And the cnuts, some of whom have said so on this forum, will happily buy parts from eBay in the full knowledge they have almost certainly been stolen.
I wonder if these bikes that Wapping has so kindly pointed out are secured when they are at their home address ? You know in a locked, alarmed garage, chained to a ground anchor with a fuck off almax and squire lock ?
Because they dont want any thieving Cnuts robbing their awesome steed whilst they sleep soundly in their beds do they.
I reckon the self same bikes left un secured in that there London are secured at home in a manner i have described above ( mine certainly is)
The simple facts of life on this are that thieving Cnuts will and always have nicked bikes ! It used to be for joy riding purposes now its for money. If you make it easy for said Cnuts then more fool you. Of course there is something wrong with society that you cant just leave your pride and joy £17K bike parked all day in a city with the keys in and your £400 helmet casualy hanging from the mirror without it getting nicked. People in the Eastend are always saying how they never locked their doors coz there was honour and honesty in those days Guv.
Times have unfortunately changed
Because they dont want any thieving Cnuts robbing their awesome steed whilst they sleep soundly in their beds do they.
I reckon the self same bikes left un secured in that there London are secured at home in a manner i have described above ( mine certainly is)
The simple facts of life on this are that thieving Cnuts will and always have nicked bikes ! It used to be for joy riding purposes now its for money. If you make it easy for said Cnuts then more fool you. Of course there is something wrong with society that you cant just leave your pride and joy £17K bike parked all day in a city with the keys in and your £400 helmet casualy hanging from the mirror without it getting nicked. People in the Eastend are always saying how they never locked their doors coz there was honour and honesty in those days Guv.
Times have unfortunately changed
Excellent.
I used the word cnut on purpose, certain that it would spark a reaction, lift the thread above the mundane and (hopefully) spark some debate. Failing that, at least it might then persuade some bods to start at least thinking about some basic security for their babies when they abandon them on the street all day or when they "Just leave it for a minute" (very little in the world really only takes a minute, other than bike theft).
Other than that, yes people shouldn't steal things. Yes people should have respect for other people's property. Yes, they should be punished for breaking the law; we all know that. But, just before the scumbag, cnut, toe rag, pikey, thief, Eastern European illegal - call them whatever you like - snaps the steering lock with one kick and wheels your baby away, just stop to think if he'd maybe not pushed it quite so far, quite so easily and quite so quickly if it had a basic disc lock attached. Who then cares if they pinch the bike next door instead? You really won't, that's for sure..... and you can still post: "Jeeze mate, feel for ya, can't believe it, any additional security?" which is the first question bods usually ask.... and they ask it for a very good reason.
I used the word cnut on purpose, certain that it would spark a reaction, lift the thread above the mundane and (hopefully) spark some debate. Failing that, at least it might then persuade some bods to start at least thinking about some basic security for their babies when they abandon them on the street all day or when they "Just leave it for a minute" (very little in the world really only takes a minute, other than bike theft).
Other than that, yes people shouldn't steal things. Yes people should have respect for other people's property. Yes, they should be punished for breaking the law; we all know that. But, just before the scumbag, cnut, toe rag, pikey, thief, Eastern European illegal - call them whatever you like - snaps the steering lock with one kick and wheels your baby away, just stop to think if he'd maybe not pushed it quite so far, quite so easily and quite so quickly if it had a basic disc lock attached. Who then cares if they pinch the bike next door instead? You really won't, that's for sure..... and you can still post: "Jeeze mate, feel for ya, can't believe it, any additional security?" which is the first question bods usually ask.... and they ask it for a very good reason.
I thought you had misspelt Canute.
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Actually, I the he's used the more correct spelling! (Who really knows?)
Xpilot, the theft of motorbikes pushes everyone's premiums up to some degree or another and / or hardens the terms. Witness how many bods are moaning that their insurer now demands that their bike is garaged 24/7 when they are at home and the angst it is causing them as a consequence. If the deplorable theft of motorcycles, starting to resemble the theft of car radios in the 70's and 80's (for those old enough to remember) can be reduced even slightly by bods taking a modicum of care, then we'll all benefit. Not least, it'll save you typing: "Mate, I hate the cnuts that pinch bikes" in reply to the next bod on this site who has his bike nicked. Yeah, we can probably guess that you - and all of us - do.
PS Interesting use of the word 'victim'. This site is full of gung-ho bikermates who critise the use of the word 'victim' quite regularly. Of course if the cnut, victim, bod, good bloke, unlucky sod, mate, biker, (cnut)scooterist - who really are scum - or just plain Biker Bob from Barking, had taken £40 out of his pocket, bought a disc lock and maybe used it, his £16,000 GS, maybe - just maybe - wouldn't have been pushed down the road quite so fast so easily and he wouldn't have been a victim at all. Some might think him a cnut if he didn't, whilst others will see him a victim; either way, he'll probably not be seeing his baby again.
PS Interesting use of the word 'victim'. This site is full of gung-ho bikermates who critise the use of the word 'victim' quite regularly. Of course if the cnut, victim, bod, good bloke, unlucky sod, mate, biker, (cnut)scooterist - who really are scum - or just plain Biker Bob from Barking, had taken £40 out of his pocket, bought a disc lock and maybe used it, his £16,000 GS, maybe - just maybe - wouldn't have been pushed down the road quite so fast so easily and he wouldn't have been a victim at all. Some might think him a cnut if he didn't, whilst others will see him a victim; either way, he'll probably not be seeing his baby again.
Always carrying a lock with me; it would be very difficult to disagree with wapping; but I would much rather live in a more honest and trustworthy country in the first place. Which takes us back to Aberdeen 's post.
I agree to wanting to live in a more honest and trustworthy country, but alas this one great nation of ours, i fear will never return to the former, there are plus and minuses for the arguments of Wapping & Aberdeen's posts
Wapping, I don't think we disagree on the need for basic security precautions; as I said I agree with the thrust of your basic argument and I am not naive as to how the world works. I just took issue with calling the poor sod who's had his bike nicked a cnut. But if that was just to raise eyebrows, it certainly worked ! However I wouldn't apply a disc lock when paying after filling up with fuel, or probably even nipping in for a pint of milk, so there is a cut off as to when most, if not all, of us would take extra precautions.
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