Traction Control Yes or NO

[ART]

And when a "major safety item" fails, it'll all end in tears, or on the back of a breakdown truck.

Pretty much the same way a catastrophic failure in, say, the front suspension would ruin your day? Unless, naturally, you are one of those hardcore people refusing all progress and still ride an unsprung bike...

Bottom line, for me, is that while I have more fun on a bike (or in a car) without a lot of electronic angels watching my back and actually am faster (at least in a car, my bike experience is a tad more limited ) that way if I'm operating at 100% efficiency ... Well, lets just say that I am not 100% efficient 100% of the time I'm on the roads. And once I make a mistake, anything that saves the day is welcome...

 

[cookie]

i don't see too much evidence of ABS failure on this forum

 

[GSmonkey]

The more I ride the bike and the more I get the ASC to activate in the shitty conditions now the salt is down, the more I'm convinced it really is not good enough to be a "safety aid". If you were cranked over and gassed it too hard in real bad conditions, you're still going down IMHO.

I rode in to work with the ASC on and back with it off. The bike certainly rides smoother as with the ASC off. I was getting good air off the back of road humps on the way home, whereas on the way to work this morning going over the same bumps, the ASC just cuts in and it feels like the engine is bogging down spoiling your ride. It also cuts in when riding over manhole covers, white lines, piles of road salt, etc. etc. Fekkin pain in the arse.

Maybe if you've got a sophisticated traction control system like on MotoGP and you're riding on perfect tarmac, then OK, its a decent safety aid i.e. highside protection and you could probably enjoy being on the edge of spinning it up which you'd never achieve as a mere mortal rider. The crude system that BMW have implemented for the road just spoils your ride - end of story.

Its probably a safety aid if you're a complete idiot. I however have a fast feedback loop from my sphincter to my right hand. Never let me down yet

I've got no axe to grind for/against - just offering my opinion for those considering the options.

 

[Shep]

The more I ride the bike and the more I get the ASC to activate in the shitty conditions now the salt is down, the more I'm convinced it really is not good enough to be a "safety aid". If you were cranked over and gassed it too hard in real bad conditions, you're still going down IMHO.

I rode in to work with the ASC on and back with it off. The bike certainly rides smoother as with the ASC off. I was getting good air off the back of road humps on the way home, whereas on the way to work this morning going over the same bumps, the ASC just cuts in and it feels like the engine is bogging down spoiling your ride. It also cuts in when riding over manhole covers, white lines, piles of road salt, etc. etc. Fekkin pain in the arse.

Maybe if you've got a sophisticated traction control system like on MotoGP and you're riding on perfect tarmac, then OK, its a decent safety aid i.e. highside protection and you could probably enjoy being on the edge of spinning it up which you'd never achieve as a mere mortal rider. The crude system that BMW have implemented for the road just spoils your ride - end of story.

Its probably a safety aid if you're a complete idiot. I however have a fast feedback loop from my sphincter to my right hand. Never let me down yet

I've got no axe to grind for/against - just offering my opinion for those considering the options.

Could you go and find some snow please

I wonder if it would even let you pull away on snow

Ta Shep

 

[GSmonkey]

Don't really get snow in London until about March, then its only a wee sprinkling. If I see some though, I'll do GP style starts and see what happens.

I think we need a jockanese tester for pukka snow...............

 

[Steptoe]

Pretty much the same way a catastrophic failure in, say, the front suspension would ruin your day?

Unless, naturally, you are one of those hardcore people refusing all progress and still ride an unsprung bike...

Whats stopping you riding with a failed front suspension ??.

The second sentence is straight out of your arse

 

[ART]

Whats stopping you riding with a failed front suspension ??.

Perhaps the term 'catastrophic failure' does not mean the same thing to you that it does to me?
Besides, why would a failing traction control system or ABS system stop you from riding on? Should be far less cumbersome, no?

The second sentence is straight out of your arse

I certainly hope not, that would mean that my keyboard is now badly contaminated...

Seriously though, you and some others in this thread are coming off as a tad ... well, adverse to technological progress. Sure, new features tend to be rather shakey at first (as evidence seems to suggest the discussed traction control is, in fact) and of limited use. But undoubtedly the next generation will be better. And the next after that. Provided someone actually buys the current one and finances the development of those (well, generally speaking ... in fact I'm sure that traction control will evolve regardless if anyone buys it or not).

 

[kiwiAdventure]

The more I ride the bike and the more I get the ASC to activate in the shitty conditions now the salt is down, the more I'm convinced it really is not good enough to be a "safety aid". If you were cranked over and gassed it too hard in real bad conditions, you're still going down IMHO.

I rode in to work with the ASC on and back with it off. The bike certainly rides smoother as with the ASC off. I was getting good air off the back of road humps on the way home, whereas on the way to work this morning going over the same bumps, the ASC just cuts in and it feels like the engine is bogging down spoiling your ride. It also cuts in when riding over manhole covers, white lines, piles of road salt, etc. etc. Fekkin pain in the arse.

Maybe if you've got a sophisticated traction control system like on MotoGP and you're riding on perfect tarmac, then OK, its a decent safety aid i.e. highside protection and you could probably enjoy being on the edge of spinning it up which you'd never achieve as a mere mortal rider. The crude system that BMW have implemented for the road just spoils your ride - end of story.

Its probably a safety aid if you're a complete idiot. I however have a fast feedback loop from my sphincter to my right hand. Never let me down yet

I've got no axe to grind for/against - just offering my opinion for those considering the options.

It was great to read to views on traction control

I am at the stage of having to pick which options to have fitted on my 08 Adventure before the 27 Dec and your views on the traction control is making me have second thoughts fitting this option. I actually like the bike to jump around my thoughts of getting traction control was for starts on steep up hill gravel rides, but now my thoughts are having the low first gear may be better than fitting traction control. I like to be a loose rider and having the bike cut out or slow me down would be a pain.

 

[GSmonkey]

If you like the bike moving around a bit, lifting the front wheel a bit, jumping a bit, ASC is certainly going to spoil your ride kiwi. Yes, you can turn it off, but you've got to do it every time and you tend to forget. I'd spend my money on a lower first gear if you think you need it, as you certainly won't be needing ASC by the sounds of it.

The only thing I can't comment on is the ability of ASC off road, but I'd imagine an experienced off road rider would need it even less than somebody like me who rides mainly on road.