So why is it then that you can take both hands off the bars and still steer the bike by shifting body weight only?
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you're a woman aren't you ? no bloke would admit to reading the manual first .
Who says I read the manual FIRST???
Ok , I'll rephrase it with the inclusion of the missing word- No amount of body shifting is going to steer a bike 'efficiently'.
I'm the same.... I must countersteer on the GSA subconsiously, its only when I have stuffed it into a corner too fast that I have to think about yanking on the bars. On my K1100RS I have to be much more active on the bars to haul it around the corners quickly.
off road i 'steer' a huge amount with body weight through the pegs standing up
As the GS has such wide bars, you probably don't realise you are countersteering.
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Miff is correct. For those who think they can steer by simply shifting their weight, try this simple experiment. Some how lock the steering head so that it is rigid and will not move. Ride to toward any corner you chose however gentle and sweeping, see if you can get round it.
Alan R
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If there's anyone crazy enough to attempt this, please let me know, so i can sell tickets.
Gyroscopic precession.
Like this you mean?
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The best way to feel yourself counter steering is to ride your favourite twisty road with your left hand in your lap ...
Why what is your left hand busy doing?
Bendy toy
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ALL bikes steer by moving the tyre contact under the centre of gravity. Even with a very light bike if you lean your body left the bike will lean right cancelling out the body lean. But it's almost impossible to lean your body without pushing the handlebar = counter steering.
Bikes with normal tele forks have interaction between steering, brakes and frame. In effect the bike is an articulated vehicle. On small bikes the forms bars and front wheel are a significant %age of the bike weight. It's no wonder they can get into a tank slapper.
The BMW Telelever (and Hossack/Duolever) isolates suspension and steering so tank slappers are less likely & maybe impossible.
As there is less interaction between frame and steering the rider has to deliberately steer the bike rather than do it as a byproduct of leaning his upper body.
Bikes with normal tele forks have interaction between steering, brakes and frame. In effect the bike is an articulated vehicle. On small bikes the forms bars and front wheel are a significant %age of the bike weight. It's no wonder they can get into a tank slapper.
The BMW Telelever (and Hossack/Duolever) isolates suspension and steering so tank slappers are less likely & maybe impossible.
As there is less interaction between frame and steering the rider has to deliberately steer the bike rather than do it as a byproduct of leaning his upper body.
Makes me wonder how we used to ride around corners at all till someone "discovered" counter steering a few years back................................
CuzGS
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Too much thinking going on here me thinks,,,,,,,,,,,,,look ahead, ride bike round corner,,,,,,,,,,,,ride str to next bend,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,repeat
This is not rocket science...............incidentally a line RH used at his race school, see what he did there...........
This is not rocket science...............incidentally a line RH used at his race school, see what he did there...........
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