Up in Smoke - engine sounds like a box of spanners!

[Nice 'n' Fat]

Are you sure? I thought it only lasted until the bikes warrany expiry date.

If the repair had been done under the original two year warranty say at 22 months then any repair would only be warranted for the remainder of the manufacturers warranty i.e. 2 months

What we have here is a manufacturers goodwill contribution in which the manufacturer is only paying a percentage of the total claim. If the manufacturer carried out and payed for the work 100% then the warranty remains with the manufacturer. If as in this case the owner is making a financial contribution towards the work (however small) then the warranty remains with the owner and any subsequent failure would be covered under the manufacturers parts warranty. Check out how long the warranty is on BMW spare parts. With some manufacturers the spare parts warranty is longer than the vehicle warranty.

It really can pay to make a financial contribution towards any goodwill claim

 

[Nice 'n' Fat]

It is - thanks for that. Looks like I need an 'insured warranty invitation letter' with login name and pin. Best speak to my dealer I suppose.

During the manufacturers warranty period (24 months) you can have your bike serviced at a non franchised (VAT Registered) garage provided it is done to the manufacturers specifications. If you take out a Motorrad Extended Warranty then the T&C's dictate that you then MUST have it serviced within the dealer network to maintain your warranty

For you to buy an extended warranty outside of the original two years will mean that your dealer has to check the bike over on behalf of Mondial so they are satisfied as to the risk they are taking on. There may be a charge for your dealer to do this but as you seem to have built up a decent relationship now with them they may not charge you

 

[karnevil]

It is - thanks for that. Looks like I need an 'insured warranty invitation letter' with login name and pin. Best speak to my dealer I suppose.

You will have had a letter it just wont have caught up with you yet!
It is part or all of your reg No.
The Dealer cannot do your warranty.Only that phone number or on line.


P.S. It may be part of the frame number now i think on it!

 

[Brian ROSEN]

It is/is it all in the mind?

[I"]an exaggerated paranoia about the FD which has made me consider a change to a new 80800GS 0 / used KTM 990[/I].." I have owned 10 BM's, 9 with shaft drive and one (an 800GS) with a chain.) If you are used to listening to whirling bits of machinery (as I was) I always felt that my final drive was going to fail - and was relieved after a few trouble free years to exchange the bike for a new model - and found out there was no difference. I couldn't notice any difference in transmission snatch etc. with the 800GS, nor did it feel any lighter than my 1200. I didn't like it much and neither did my wife on the back; When it stalled on a nasty bend (which I learned from this forum was a common fault on early models) and dropped me on the road it was too damaged to ride. I arranged for the dealer to collect it from the roadside, take it away and sell me another 1200 with which I am much more at ease, but slightly poorer! - although the FD sounds a bit........odd/normal?.

 

[harry]

Iandoha, sorry to hear of your woes and that you are now fearful of the FD giving trouble.

It's worth remembering that there are many thousands of 12's which are trouble free and ridden hard. Mine is an 08 at 25k and I know Eclectic here in Saintfield has around 80k on an 04, he has been twice to S America and rides year round. Perhaps you need to talk to people like him.

There are loads of very negative people, and loads of people who think they know it all on this site, esp as regards the 1200. You need to ignore them.

I don't doubt that Jim Hill's boys will give you back your excellent GS12 as good as new, as it were.

Hopefully meet you on the road sometime

 

[iaindoha]

Iandoha, sorry to hear of your woes and that you are now fearful of the FD giving trouble.

It's worth remembering that there are many thousands of 12's which are trouble free and ridden hard. Mine is an 08 at 25k and I know Eclectic here in Saintfield has around 80k on an 04, he has been twice to S America and rides year round. Perhaps you need to talk to people like him.

There are loads of very negative people, and loads of people who think they know it all on this site, esp as regards the 1200. You need to ignore them.

I don't doubt that Jim Hill's boys will give you back your excellent GS12 as good as new, as it were.

Hopefully meet you on the road sometime

Cheers Harry - glad to hear from the positive side.

 

[Deleted account 190920001]

You don't have to get a BMW warranty if you want one. You can get an independent one like warranty direct any time and without any inspection. With this type of warranty you only need to get the bike services by any VAT registered bike mechanic. Doesn't matter if it is your local BMW dealer or the corner bike shop.

 

[iaindoha]

Just wanted to let you guys know that the bike has been back on the road for the last week. I just had to pay for the labour plus the 3l of oil that had disappeared. £360 with VAT. Parts were £2k which BMW covered as goodwill. In addition to the engine parts I got new front pipes and cat because of the amount of oil that had gone through them.

Headed over to Scotland on it for 4 days last week and all was well. Only downside was having to run it in again but having covered 1200 km on the trip that is now sorted.

Back with the dealer today getting its post run-in checks.

Thanks for all the advice and feedback on this since I first posted.

 

[velofelo29]

Interested to know which fuel you use, ordinary or the premium. Also are there any industrial chemists reading this that can advise which of these fuels generates the higher cylinder temperature. Can this be a fuel related issue, my thinking being that perhaps a certain combination of factors leads to the valve being pushed to failure. If it is not something like that then it appears to me to be inconsistency in Bm's manufacturing and these days that shouldn't happen with an exhaust valve. Finally has anyone had a failure after running with the mixture enrichening device?

 

[iaindoha]

Interested to know which fuel you use, ordinary or the premium. Also are there any industrial chemists reading this that can advise which of these fuels generates the higher cylinder temperature. Can this be a fuel related issue, my thinking being that perhaps a certain combination of factors leads to the valve being pushed to failure. If it is not something like that then it appears to me to be inconsistency in Bm's manufacturing and these days that shouldn't happen with an exhaust valve. Finally has anyone had a failure after running with the mixture enrichening device?

Before the problem the bike had covered about 7,000 miles of which 6,000 was with with 98 (in Qatar where petrol is very cheap) and the remainder on 95 (back in UK).

 

[Pukmeister]

It's because you bought a yellow one, my mates '04 that went bang was yellow too.

Shoulda bought a red one.

Seriously though, I'm glad that its now fixed and hope you can now enjoy it.