V85 Head bearings.

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Last year the TT failed its MOT due to knackered front wheel bearings.
This year’s MOT isn’t due until May, but a quick check recently showed a very notchy steering action with a noticeable self centering tendency - defo a failure. So whilst the weather’s pants it’s time for some new head bearings.

I purchased a set of tapered “All Balls” from Wemoto and set about the job myself.

During the strip down I managed to shear the ABS sensor bolt, M5 steel in the alloy fork bottom, so that requires some attention. Aside from that it came apart easily except for the cap on the top yoke which required a 14mm Allen key (I used a sump key in the end) on a breaker bar to shift.

Noticeable small amount of grease on top and bottom bearings and decent quality Japanese bearings fitted as standard.

Last time I did head bearings was in the 80’s probably so I naively thought I’d be able to knock them out of the head tube easily. No chance. Luigi the designer created a head stock and bearing arrangement where the races are slightly larger ID than the tube, meaning there’s nothing to hit!
The gap between the bearing and the tube step also means a standard removal tool can’t engage!
The shop manual says to use a generic bearing puller, but I think that’s a lie!

Only way to get them out was a Dremmel, which was also used on the steering head to shift the lower Inner race.

Wifey was out tonight so the head went in the freezer and the inner race in the oven for a spell. Using the old race as a drift I’ve got the those sorted.

For the frame I’m waiting for a 55mm bearing drift to arrive tomorrow, bearings are in the freezer and I’ll put the heat gun on the head tube before fitting.

I’m sure doing these in the past on Suzukis was never this much hassle!
 

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If you have access to a mig welder a thick bead around the inner race usually helps get them out pretty easily. :thumb2
 
i use a split collet bearing remover .
hmm .... you've got tapers ? i have tried tapers and found the seal would add friction after they had a little bit of wear , so i went back to using std size bearings . ( although i may have a solution to this when i do 1 of my bikes )
5 mm abs screw , haven't broken one of those on the front .....yet . some hot air would have been useful to loosen the Loctite along with a cupful of patience .

do you have the special tool to tighten the top nut up ? and a torque wrench ? ( that is the bearing nut NOT the yoke nut. )
when you put the forks back in , make sure you get the reflectors in the correct place ,
cos when you have the mudguard back on .....you cannot spin the legs .
 
Thanks for posting and good to know about the head bearings being a job to remove. I'll let the dealer deal with that when mine go bad.

There is no reason for removing that ABS sensor to remove the front wheel. But the service manual calls for it so I did, and of course snapped the tiny screw that must have had red LockTite from the factory! I just put the sensor back with a drop of JB Weld on the broken screw and it's held fine now for 3 years.
 
There is no reason for removing that ABS sensor to remove the front wheel.
no, but then you have to chase the wire back to under the tank , which you have removed . ( and it just gets in the way )
me = i like to take out every bolt , and alu-slip them ( copperslip , but aluminium ) Loctite, is there from the factory cos they worry about bits falling off .
i worry about having to drill out broken bolts. it is something i hate doing , the risk of collateral damage is too high.
 
i use a split collet bearing remover .
hmm .... you've got tapers ? i have tried tapers and found the seal would add friction after they had a little bit of wear , so i went back to using std size bearings . ( although i may have a solution to this when i do 1 of my bikes )
5 mm abs screw , haven't broken one of those on the front .....yet . some hot air would have been useful to loosen the Loctite along with a cupful of patience .

do you have the special tool to tighten the top nut up ? and a torque wrench ? ( that is the bearing nut NOT the yoke nut. )
when you put the forks back in , make sure you get the reflectors in the correct place ,
cos when you have the mudguard back on .....you cannot spin the legs .
I tried a split collet remover, but the width of the engaging portion of the collet was wider than the gap between the race and the step in the head, so there was no engagement using that. I could have ground the engagment portion thinner, but that seemed a little risky and would only have given a very small engagement.

I have the correct castlated socket for the two top nuts, however I can't find any reference of a torque spec for these nuts.
I was just going to go with feeling the play in the steering as a judgement.

The yoke nut was a bitch to shift, so that's going back "fart tight".
 

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page suspension 248 , what they have written looks wrong to me ? i thought it was 40Nm


page suspension 254 this is how i do it , not that much different in the scheme of things.

i do the torque at either full left or full right , then swing it around a bit to check . so if you do it wrong , you put a dent at full lock
 
Interesting read. Glad there's so much knowledge on here!
I hear the new V100 is the same, be it Stelvio or Mandello.
They seem to fail around the 15k service, and the dealership pops a new, improved bearing in and greases it properly..... Job then done for the long term 👍😎
 
I'm intending to grease and check my V85tt steering bearings before putting the bike on the road for Spring. I recently bought one of these for the job.

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I'm intending to grease and check my V85tt steering bearings before putting the bike on the road for Spring. I recently bought one of these for the job.

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Make sure you have a 14mm allen to shift the top yoke nut.
I don't have a key to suit so I used a oil sump plug tool that's double ended (14mm / 17mm hex) and a 17mm socket.
Cheaper alternative to sourcing a 14mm allen and much easier to source.
 

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