V85TT service/Stelvio test ride.

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On Wednesday this coming week my V85TT is booked in with my local Guzzi dealer for an annual service and its first MOT.
I’m ashamed to say I’ve only managed to do 4150 miles on it from new.

Whilst I’m waiting for the bike to be looked at I’ve booked a ride on a Stelvio demonstrator….weather permitting.
I’ll report back.

I do have a ride planned soon, I’m off to the Moto GP in Portugal at the beginning of November. It seemed like a good idea when I agreed with a mate to go back in August !!
 
On Wednesday this coming week my V85TT is booked in with my local Guzzi dealer for an annual service and its first MOT.
I’m ashamed to say I’ve only managed to do 4150 miles on it from new.

Whilst I’m waiting for the bike to be looked at I’ve booked a ride on a Stelvio demonstrator….weather permitting.
I’ll report back.

I do have a ride planned soon, I’m off to the Moto GP in Portugal at the beginning of November. It seemed like a good idea when I agreed with a mate to go back in August !!
I loved my Stelvio.....I just loved the V85 more. See if you can get a go on the Euro5+ V85, it is quite a bit different.
 
I loved my Stelvio.....I just loved the V85 more. See if you can get a go on the Euro5+ V85, it is quite a bit different.
That’s also on my list after reading your comments about the 5+ a while ago.
I don’t think they have a demo available at the moment but there’s no rush.

I still really like the bike I have and colour wise I prefer it to the latest offers.
Stelvio wise the red, white and blue one looks the best. I can’t remember the name.
 
Took mine around Scotland a couple of weeks back. The V85TT used to really struggle amongst the company of bigger bikes, but the Stelvio really holds it's own on these (50-75mph and sometimes a bit more :) ) roads (y) Same with the Wild Atlantic Way in Ireland - IMO the Stelvio was the perfect motorcycle
 
Slightly off topic, I had a test ride on a Triumph earlier in the year, I was quite shocked at the £1000 excess on the policy. Is this normal now for all loan bikes and test rides?
 
Slightly off topic, I had a test ride on a Triumph earlier in the year, I was quite shocked at the £1000 excess on the policy. Is this normal now for all loan bikes and test rides?

common but not universal

I have found BMW dealers are lower in general, at least the two I used most recently, Sytner Shrewsbury & Cotswold. £250 I think. Of course, they charge substantial hourly rates to cover their overheads so you pay one way or another.
 
The weather was nice, the bike was there, so I went for a ride whilst they serviced and MOT’d my 3 year old V85TT.

The bike I was lent wasn’t a dealer demonstrator but a 4200 mile (ish) second hand bike from their stock.
It was in very nice condition….and still is you’ll be pleased to know.

Anyway, off I went. It seemed quite noisy compared to the V85TT, exhaust and induction. Not too much but…??
There are a fair few buttons and a bit of scrolling discovered heated grips, I didn’t try them as it wasn’t cold, and the adjustable screen.
I liked the screen and could feel the differences between upper and lower settings plus some in between. I didn’t notice any buffeting at all the way up to 85 MPH. It wasn’t a windy day though so that could make a difference as on the V85TT.

Engine performance was obviously greater than my bike and the suspension was taughter making it easier to reach high speeds without effort. Whether that’s better or not I’m not sure. I tried a couple of the engine modes but sport or road were both fine for what I tried in the 50 minutes that I rode for. It went around corners very nicely and was OK filtering in traffic too.
It was perfectly comfortable for that period as well.

The only negative that I could find was that something in the drivetrain clonked on closing and opening the throttle. Not everyone and only really noticeable at slow speeds.
For those that have had these bikes is that a characteristic of the model or an issue with the one I rode?

Back at the showroom and a part exchange value was discussed which seemed fair, I reckon that I could squeeze them another couple of hundred pounds, especially in view of stock availability.
There are some cracking deals on the Stelvio at present. £12000 which includes an ‘accessories pack’ I think. Panniers, top box, extra lights and engine bars, although the sales guy didn’t mention any of that as I was ‘gentle’ in my enquiries and he was taking a no pressure approach.

The numbers, if all of that above is correct make it very, very tempting.
But, my bike was so nice on the way home. A lighter clutch, it looks so nice, feels right and I could do a lot with the money I’d spend on a new Stelvio.
I could get a new V85TT for one. Fit some Bumot panniers ….which would come in useful (not) if I carrry on doing about 1500 miles a year. Disgraceful and disappointing as that’s been.

My bike was given a clean bill of health by the workshop and now has an advisory free MOT. It probably won’t depreciate a massive amount in the next year or two.
But a new bike is always exciting. But my bike does everything so pleasantly.

What a wonderful dilemma to have.
I’ll update as my thoughts percolate through…..we’re looking at new campervans too at the moment so my head is already spinning from that. A trip to the NEC next week for the Motorhome show may, or may not, help.
Along with that we may be going to a bicycle shop near Gloucester that sells the Cube brand….Fraser’s of Gloucester sell Guzzi’s….oh dear.
 
Nice one, OnHellas :)
Agree with all you say - the V100 is "just a bit more" than the V85 in almost every way (handling, speed, weather protection)... except Character which it has a bit less (not still more than a watercooled BMW boxer IMO). Servicing is also harder (V85 is a doddle).

BTW I don't have a transmission clonk (8k miles) on opening and closing the throttle - that doesn't sound good?

There's a resonance from the exhaust (some say you can remove some of the resonance by taking the heatshields off the exhausts). I find this noise quite nice, a tad louder than a GS ...

Good write-up, I was looking FWD to your thoughts :)

Oh and I put Oxford heated grips coz I hate menus on a bike :okay - altho it's pretty simple once you get used to it
 
Frasers is a good dealer. My local one for many years when I lived in the Wye Valley & Cheltenham. I would have bought my V85 there if I hadn't moved 2 hours north.

Changing bikes for so little use seems counter intuitive to me. Although, I doubled my annual mileage in 6 months after I bought the V85 in March as my hip no longer hurts when riding!
 
The weather was nice, the bike was there, so I went for a ride whilst they serviced and MOT’d my 3 year old V85TT.

The bike I was lent wasn’t a dealer demonstrator but a 4200 mile (ish) second hand bike from their stock.
It was in very nice condition….and still is you’ll be pleased to know.

Anyway, off I went. It seemed quite noisy compared to the V85TT, exhaust and induction. Not too much but…??
There are a fair few buttons and a bit of scrolling discovered heated grips, I didn’t try them as it wasn’t cold, and the adjustable screen.
I liked the screen and could feel the differences between upper and lower settings plus some in between. I didn’t notice any buffeting at all the way up to 85 MPH. It wasn’t a windy day though so that could make a difference as on the V85TT.

Engine performance was obviously greater than my bike and the suspension was taughter making it easier to reach high speeds without effort. Whether that’s better or not I’m not sure. I tried a couple of the engine modes but sport or road were both fine for what I tried in the 50 minutes that I rode for. It went around corners very nicely and was OK filtering in traffic too.
It was perfectly comfortable for that period as well.

The only negative that I could find was that something in the drivetrain clonked on closing and opening the throttle. Not everyone and only really noticeable at slow speeds.
For those that have had these bikes is that a characteristic of the model or an issue with the one I rode?

Back at the showroom and a part exchange value was discussed which seemed fair, I reckon that I could squeeze them another couple of hundred pounds, especially in view of stock availability.
There are some cracking deals on the Stelvio at present. £12000 which includes an ‘accessories pack’ I think. Panniers, top box, extra lights and engine bars, although the sales guy didn’t mention any of that as I was ‘gentle’ in my enquiries and he was taking a no pressure approach.

The numbers, if all of that above is correct make it very, very tempting.
But, my bike was so nice on the way home. A lighter clutch, it looks so nice, feels right and I could do a lot with the money I’d spend on a new Stelvio.
I could get a new V85TT for one. Fit some Bumot panniers ….which would come in useful (not) if I carrry on doing about 1500 miles a year. Disgraceful and disappointing as that’s been.

My bike was given a clean bill of health by the workshop and now has an advisory free MOT. It probably won’t depreciate a massive amount in the next year or two.
But a new bike is always exciting. But my bike does everything so pleasantly.

What a wonderful dilemma to have.
I’ll update as my thoughts percolate through…..we’re looking at new campervans too at the moment so my head is already spinning from that. A trip to the NEC next week for the Motorhome show may, or may not, help.
Along with that we may be going to a bicycle shop near Gloucester that sells the Cube brand….Fraser’s of Gloucester sell Guzzi’s….oh dear.
I did like my Stelvio, but as I said before I liked the Euro5+ V85 more. Absolutely loved the motor in the Stelvio, but the gearbox and suspension were the 2 big things that let it down for me. 1st gear up to 3rd gear were awful on the Stelvio and the initial prod down into first was simply unacceptable. On fast A roads and good B roads the Stelvio was one of the nicest (if not the nicest) bikes I had ever ridden and the suspension was not a problem. The suspension problems kicked in for me on those tight gnarly back roads. At anything above 20mph the bike started to throw you about a little and became a bit of a handful.
My go to road for checking suspension is the road between Egdon bridge and Rosedale in the North Yorks Moors. Now, I can ride the V85 along that road at 60mph where possible and remain in complete control of the bike. The Stelvio was a very different kettle of fish. I did once spend a couple of hours just riding that road and adding suspension adjustments and found it almost impossible to ride the bike at 60mph without it trying to buck you off. And I never felt fully in control.
It's real handling issues came to light when at the Guzzi meet in Dent, some of those back roads in the Dales were very challenging. It was on the way home from that trip that I bought my present V85 and ran both it and the Stelvio side by side. It wasn't that difficult a decision as to which bike was most suited my needs.
Would I have another Stelvio? If they produced one with the semi active suspension as is fitted to the Mandello S, then yes in a heart beat. I would need an extended test ride though. I'm led to believe they have made substantial changes to the gearbox.
 
The suspension took a bit of time to adjust correctly but I'm super happy with mine now. I'm 94kg ..
 
Frasers is a good dealer. My local one for many years when I lived in the Wye Valley & Cheltenham. I would have bought my V85 there if I hadn't moved 2 hours north.

Changing bikes for so little use seems counter intuitive to me. Although, I doubled my annual mileage in 6 months after I bought the V85 in March as my hip no longer hurts when riding!
I agree re changing my current bike after so little use. But, new bike is shiny.
Also I can afford it, which another reason NOT to change.
 
I did like my Stelvio, but as I said before I liked the Euro5+ V85 more. Absolutely loved the motor in the Stelvio, but the gearbox and suspension were the 2 big things that let it down for me. 1st gear up to 3rd gear were awful on the Stelvio and the initial prod down into first was simply unacceptable. On fast A roads and good B roads the Stelvio was one of the nicest (if not the nicest) bikes I had ever ridden and the suspension was not a problem. The suspension problems kicked in for me on those tight gnarly back roads. At anything above 20mph the bike started to throw you about a little and became a bit of a handful.
My go to road for checking suspension is the road between Egdon bridge and Rosedale in the North Yorks Moors. Now, I can ride the V85 along that road at 60mph where possible and remain in complete control of the bike. The Stelvio was a very different kettle of fish. I did once spend a couple of hours just riding that road and adding suspension adjustments and found it almost impossible to ride the bike at 60mph without it trying to buck you off. And I never felt fully in control.
It's real handling issues came to light when at the Guzzi meet in Dent, some of those back roads in the Dales were very challenging. It was on the way home from that trip that I bought my present V85 and ran both it and the Stelvio side by side. It wasn't that difficult a decision as to which bike was most suited my needs.
Would I have another Stelvio? If they produced one with the semi active suspension as is fitted to the Mandello S, then yes in a heart beat. I would need an extended test ride though. I'm led to believe they have made substantial changes to the gearbox.
That’s all useful to know. I think that overall the Stelvio felt like a better bike to me than the V85TT.
But I don’t necessarily think that that makes it a nicer bike. The V85 really is very pleasant and one of the nicest bikes I’ve had.

I’m off to Portugal to watch the Moto GP at Portimão early in November. It’ll be around 1500 miles riding I think as we’re getting the ferry to Santander.
That will tell me if I’m going to stick or twist.

I’ve got a taller screen that I need to try before I go. It’s one of those Givi double screen things.
 
I’ve got a taller screen that I need to try before I go. It’s one of those Givi double screen things.
I know the screen you mean Givi Airflow. Someone gave me one which I had on a previous V85. He'd buggered about cutting the top half of the screen so it was unsellable, so gave it to me. I tried it and ended up just using the lower half.
I thought it looked good (just the lower half) and was the best screen I'd had on a V85.
 


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