WoooooosssssshhhhWhy not?
Like comparing McDonald's to a top end steak restaurant, ooo it's still food and just as good![]()
WoooooosssssshhhhWhy not?
Like comparing McDonald's to a top end steak restaurant, ooo it's still food and just as good![]()
I can understand the squabbling here if you were comparing a hand built Aston Martin with a Chinese MG.
Fact is,most of the bmw is built in the same factories.
2nd fact is,your paying a premium for a badge that may,or may not be better VFM over time.
It’s allegedly got premium after sales service at the moment,that won’t continue once the warranty runs out.
If the bmw was a superior quality product,I’d get it,but I doubt it’s any better than the Chinese bike in most respects.
The customers have been beta testers for the brand since mid 2000’s,and have been paying handsomely for the privilege.![]()
I bet you’re mega interesting at partiesI think it’s an image issue due to the insecurity of the average vain British biker .
Been mentioned before , but in the UK large scoots are denounced as being a bit beneath a real biker whereas they are embraced on the continent .
Same as many here need the latest and biggest Wankpanzer, festoon it with 30000 lumens of LEDs and 80 litres of Touracúnt ally boxes so they fit in with their mates for that 20 mile Sunday ride .
Vainglorious wankfestering bollocks is what it is .
Another reason that I don’t ride in the UK anymore unless needs must . Tossers is very apt![]()
I bet you’re mega interesting at parties
I think youre wrong.I think it’s an image issue due to the insecurity of the average vain British biker .
Been mentioned before , but in the UK large scoots are denounced as being a bit beneath a real biker whereas they are embraced on the continent .
Same as many here need the latest and biggest Wankpanzer, festoon it with 30000 lumens of LEDs and 80 litres of Touracúnt ally boxes so they fit in with their mates for that 20 mile Sunday ride .
Vainglorious wankfestering bollocks is what it is .
Another reason that I don’t ride in the UK anymore unless needs must . Tossers is very apt![]()
Prophetic.........But that’s always been the case with any bike.
You can’t really compare new with used as the used buy will always seem better, but you have to factor in warranty etc .
All I know is times are changing .
I can see major manufacturers such as KTM not being here in a couple of years , or at least having to undergo radical restructuring to survive .
I’ve probably owned more new KTMs in the last 25 years than anybody else on here but I can assure you I’ve bought my last .
I can also safely say that there’s an extremely high chance that my next bike will be made in China.
You bored.
Well I was awake all nightYou bored.![]()
Certainly needs some work done on those eyesYou bored.![]()
The New GSA is horrible to look at but the Voge is just bland. The Voge wouldn't stir my soul clapping eyes on it when I open the garage doorBeauty is in the eye of the beholder .
I know what I prefer but we is all different .
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You could have a Voge in each of the three colours for the same price as one GSA.

Fixed.A lot of insecure twatifarious Brit bikers won’t like the look of the Voge…once they’ve spotted the badge.
Swap that for a BMW roundel/Honda Wing etc and the acceptance of its looks will rise.
A lot of people won’t like the look of the Voge…once they’ve spotted the badge.
Swap that for a BMW roundel/Honda Wing etc and the acceptance of its looks will rise.