Wankpanzer Oder Uberwankpanzer ?

It probably had ABS as standard too and a trip computer as an option

There is so much more technology in a GS these days for a similar price at up to date rates,
Lean sensitive ABS, traction control, TPMS, cruise control, semi active suspension with configurable damping and auto preload etc, even variable spring rate on the 1300s which is superb, TFT screen with Bluetooth connectivity for navigation, music, phone, electric screens etc.etc.
And that’s a good thing? :unsure: :blast
 
I’ve just watched a video where the owner of a new 24 plate 1300GS (now 10 months old with 9k Miles) was offered £8000 less than he bought it for by his local dealer.

Yes folks £8000 depreciation in 10 months.

You lose 20% straight away with the VAT paid. Even on a boggo standard one he'd loose just over 3K to VAT.

And he's far over the average mileage of 4k - which probably impacts to the tune of £100 per 1K miles over.

So there's 3.5K accounted for before market conditions of a down market are taken into consideration.
 
You lose 20% straight away with the VAT paid. Even on a boggo standard one he'd loose just over 3K to VAT.

And he's far over the average mileage of 4k - which probably impacts to the tune of £100 per 1K miles over.

So there's 3.5K accounted for before market conditions of a down market are taken into consideration.
I'm sure I read somewhere the VAT loss as you ride from the showroom is a falasy?
 
You lose 20% straight away with the VAT paid. Even on a boggo standard one he'd loose just over 3K to VAT.

And he's far over the average mileage of 4k - which probably impacts to the tune of £100 per 1K miles over.

So there's 3.5K accounted for before market conditions of a down market are taken into consideration.
And therein lies some of the bullshit .
The new 1300 GSA is marketed as a bike to tour the world but if you actually average more than 350 miles per month then you’re heavily penalised. Utterly ridiculous.
 
You lose 20% straight away with the VAT paid. Even on a boggo standard one he'd loose just over 3K to VAT.

And he's far over the average mileage of 4k - which probably impacts to the tune of £100 per 1K miles over.

So there's 3.5K accounted for before market conditions of a down market are taken into consideration.
Who says the average mileage is 4 k ?
 
I'm sure I read somewhere the VAT loss as you ride from the showroom is a falasy?

It's a tax you pay, which is an inflated cost of the Bike. It's why if you import a Vehicle from abroad, you'll pay an import duty + VAT. It's on top of the cost of the Vehicle price.

If you buy a Van VAT free/claim the VAT back it's cheaper......
 
Who says the average mileage is 4 k ?

It's what you see as the industry standard / averages they come up with. Not necessarily consumer influenced numbers, but how they value the Bikes.

Hence why most OEM showrooms will not have vehicles over X mileage depending on their age (along with Warranty requirements, of course).
 
Who says the average mileage is 4 k ?
I’ve heard that many dealers use this as an a yearly average. And no doubt linked to restraints on mileage attached to the PCP.
Come and ride an UberWankPanzer.Only £500 per month and you can do 350 miles per month with no restrictions 😜😜.

The slippery slope for big bike sales has begun.Muppets.
 
I’ve heard that many dealers use this as an a yearly average. And no doubt linked to restraints on mileage attached to the PCP.
Come and ride an UberWankPanzer.Only £500 per month and you can do 350 miles per month with no restrictions 😜😜.

The slippery slope for big bike sales has begun.Muppets.
That’s me knackered then. The wing is 4 years old and 31k.
NC is 7 months old 5.5 k
I did 7.6k on the ADV350 in a year. Don’t know how, didn’t use it much :nenau
 
I like the fact its stupid expensive. It will reduce the Round the world Costa tossers. I bought my R1300GSA cash. But I hope the PCP deals are stupid money too.
Less GS Twats on the road. :ROFLMAO:
(y):smokeboun
 
I like the fact its stupid expensive. It will reduce the Round the world Costa tossers. I bought my R1300GSA cash. But I hope the PCP deals are stupid money too.
Less GS Twats on the road. :ROFLMAO:
(y):smokeboun
But PCP is there to attract people who can’t afford to buy one, so they rent it instead.
 
But I hope the PCP deals are stupid money too.
They are.
I test rode a 13 GSA last week and although i felt slightly dirty and sordid for asking i did enquire what the cost to change would be on my (bought for cash) `21 GSA TE if i went the PCP route.
Perhaps i am naive but thinking that i had a sizeable deposit (the PX`d 1250) the monthly repayments would be modest and after the 3 years it`d be more-or-less payed for. Wrong!!

They wanted my bike, plus the ~150 quid a month for three years, then a twelve grand final payment!!!!!

If i handed the bike back at the end of the term rather than pay the balloon payment i`d be left with precisely fuck all and no motorcycle!!
I can now see how folks fall into the PCP trap.

Good job i`m keeping the 1250.....
 
That's mental. But exactly what I want to hear. :ROFLMAO: I always buy my bikes outright. As has been said, PCP is allowing people that cant really afford something, to be able to "Own" something. Therefore, Im hoping to see a reduction in Twat GS Owners on the roads. :rob
All that said, It isn't good for the Motorcycle industry as a whole. Or is it ? It will force more people to cheaper budget bikes, Like Mr A Sugar Amstrad, Stack em High, Sell them cheap. The Cinnese ADV bikes coming through are proper good. Buy those. (y)
I just Hope "Ewan and Thingy" do a "Long way to Costas" on a Chinese ADV :thumb
 
If I handed the bike back at the end of the term rather than pay the balloon payment i`d be left with precisely fuck all and no motorcycle!!
Just thought, another way of looking at is that after the original purchase price of my 1250 plus the three years on PCP on a new bike I would have suffered a twenty three thousand pound loss in six years. (Or, I would have hired a bike for 6 years costing 23k)
Makes ya fink, don’t it?
 


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