Weight saving ... really?
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My 1250 often showed 60+ mpg on the bike's pooter riding on A and B roads around Worcestershire and Wales and a tank range when full of nearly 240 miles. I never bothered to check how accurate it was though, I was just pleased I didn't have to stop as often as I did on other bikes I'd had in the past, which were all 4 cylinder bikes
Correct Onahi, some people just take things too personally & can't understand others points of view or even the post itself.
Weight does matter if you want to keep biking & aren't strong enough due to age or illness.
People who refer to the GS weight are usually the biggest weight on the bike!
I know i am
then again i don't really care about the bike weight, i can throw it around just fine.
I know i am
then again i don't really care about the bike weight, i can throw it around just fine.
There is too much emphasis on weight. Especially if range is going to be compromised by using a smaller tank. After all if you have a 25 or 30 liter tank you don’t actually have to fill it. On one of my GSAs the tank would hold 37 liters. Official size was 33. I can honestly say that full or empty I never had any difficulty. Never even noticed. 250 miles 400 kms is a nice range which most bikes can’t achieve. People today seem to use bikes as a leasure activity. We read about a biking season. No such thing. Bikes are not toys. JJH
The weight of the 1250GS and the 1300GS is despite what the BMW propaganda says exactly the same ! 3 kilos “saving” is the weight of the smaller / 3 times as expensive Lithium battery and the lawn mover tank that graces the new GS…I would say like everything we get to read / fake news or outright lies ! If you want to save 4 real kilos take a sheet or buy the forged wheels 
! Question remains if the wheels are 2 kilos a piece lighter than the stock cast ones (which would be great) or the heavier spoked ones…?
! Question remains if the wheels are 2 kilos a piece lighter than the stock cast ones (which would be great) or the heavier spoked ones…?
Unless it’s noted as weight by bags of sugar or size by how many double deckers....I’m out 
Maybe they bring the upcoming Adventure down to 25 liters to advertise 16 kilo weight “savings” (12 plus 4 in missing gas) and I have the bike with a tank range of 200 miles plus reserve…
The new R Nine T has a 16 liter tank where some lawn movers have bigger tanks and hard bags and cdnterstand are still missing in action on the options list which makes you wonder if BMW is in the business of selling bikes to people who actually ride ?
The new R Nine T has a 16 liter tank where some lawn movers have bigger tanks and hard bags and cdnterstand are still missing in action on the options list which makes you wonder if BMW is in the business of selling bikes to people who actually ride ?
I have quite a long commute. 30 miles. It’s the bike for me otherwise it would take me well over an hour. It’s about 40 minutes by bike. Sometimes I’ll take a bus home. Even with bus lanes it still takes over an hour. I don’t have a car. Got rid about 22 years ago. 1000 miles in 2 years. Not worth keeping it taxed and insured. Wife has a car for when we need one. When I started biking in 1976 every traffic light there would be a good few bikes waiting for green. Now I’m usually alone. Bikes come out at weekends. JJH
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Indeed, Motorrad magazine (issue 01/2024) weighed a fully equipped 1300GS at 255kg including centrestand and all the DSA suspension goodies compared to a similarly equipped 1250GS at 258kg (or 261 kg with lights and crashbars)The weight is like the price
Here they start at 237kg and 20,690 Euros
Then it all depends on how many boxes you tick, and both numbers go up
Of course not! BMW is in the business of making money. Their purchasing/procurement department sources ever tackier bits (camshafts that wear, throttle bodies that fail, wheels that ding on a pothole (when the bikes are advertised as "round the world" ADV machines). It's about money/margin/profit. They're appealing to a LIFESTYLE, where they can sell clothing, finance deals (their banking capability is almost as big as their manufacturing capacityMaybe they bring the upcoming Adventure down to 25 liters to advertise 16 kilo weight “savings” (12 plus 4 in missing gas) and I have the bike with a tank range of 200 miles plus reserve…
). No longer run by engineers/enthusiasts, but run by beancounters, hence why so much manufacturing has been moved to china (the parallel twin bikes are now entirely chinese IIRC).
Sounds like a well set up bile with those kind of figures;; on my old 1100 i'am getting 183 mls for 19 litres at the last fill up; now i know my speedo is optimistic by around 5mph some i'am assuming i'am getting less real world; as for the weight; fuckin Tankinstien and some;; does'nt spoil the enjoyment tho.
I thought the first 1200 hex heads were the lightest.
Beemerboy 9 , 3 kilos not 12 as advertised and really no weight savings at all as you can make the 1250 as light as a 1300 as in 255 kilos wet if you only fill 19 liters in the tank that actually holds 21 and buy a Lithium battery for 500 bucks instead of replacing the AGM one for roughly 1/3 of the price…I would say false advertising !
Martin K … Lifestyle you say I thought Harley was in the business of Lifestyle selling overpriced boat anchors to people who like to dress up like gay pirates and T shirts to those who cant afford their overpriced junk…Or as an alternative you can get the R18 that is even heavier and is quieter than the average fart…”Soulfuel”
Martin K … Lifestyle you say I thought Harley was in the business of Lifestyle selling overpriced boat anchors to people who like to dress up like gay pirates and T shirts to those who cant afford their overpriced junk…Or as an alternative you can get the R18 that is even heavier and is quieter than the average fart…”Soulfuel”
Weight saving on a chassis is positive for the bike as it wil feel lighter , my forged wheels make a difference on fast direction changes , it’s not a collective of kgs , more where they have reduced it . My big grip is big top boxes , why put all that weight high up , pointless . My 1250 was brilliant but you did have to wrestle it , not now . The V4 s was light , the R 1300 feels lighter, more usable power and and a better chassis . This new model is a great addition to the motorcycle world , a real bike .
Well it's water under the bridge now as the GS has gone. Weight wise it was getting a bit of a handful, so I've swapped it for a 1250RS which although it's only a few kgs lighter is far easier to move around and ride at low speeds I guess because it's both more compact and has a lower COG thanks to the smaller wheels.
Folks mention miles to the gallon , can’t see it. I ride my bike to enjoy it not see how much I can get from a tank , we have many petrol station here and abroad , my arse starts to call for a coffee and fag around 120 miles , I’m human .. if this new bike did 20 to the gallon , who cares ..I love riding it and any bike
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I’m the same, I don’t have a clue how many mpg (or liters/100km here) my bikes do, compared to cars they’re diabolical anyway
I know my 1200 used to drink if you cruised at over about 120 kmh but I haven’t had the 1300 on a long run yet to find out
I think it will be better as it feels to be lower revving at that kind of speed
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