What are the CO2 emissions for a 1200 GS?

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To help save the planet, my employer has introduced parking charges based on C02 emissions. I always assumed that my GS would be free but when I put the registration number into the on-line calculator it came out at 120 (Group 2) which is the same as a Ford Focus 1.6 so I’d have to pay.

Bikes and cars under 100 are free but I’ve been unable to get any official information (BMW or government) on the emissions for my 2006 1200GS. However, I did find a website claiming that it’s 99.8 but I need something with more clout before taking it to my employer.

Any official information on emissions would be greatly appreciated. And, as I have a 9 to 5 job, I’m not interested in information on nocturnal emissions!

Thanks
 
Wapping said:
Isn't it stated on your V5?
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Probably not. In Germany, all new vehicles come with an EC certificate of conformity, however, values for CO2 are not listed. On my certificate for my my 1200GS, the values given are:

CO: 0.559 g/km
HC: 0.174 g/km
NOx: 0.044 g/km

On the emissions certificate from March this year (We have to get this done every 2 years), it just says that everything is OK - no values or limits are quoted.
 
Show them your V5, motorcycles do not have CO2 emissions recorded on the V5, therefore they cant prove your GS is over 100g/km. Incidently, what are they doing about people whose cars were registered before 2001 and dont have their emissions recorded?
 
phillh said:
Show them your V5, motorcycles do not have CO2 emissions recorded on the V5, therefore they cant prove your GS is over 100g/km. Incidently, what are they doing about people whose cars were registered before 2001 and dont have their emissions recorded?
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I've just checked and there are no emissions recorded on the V5 for my GS so I have no idea where they're getting the 120 from. For vehicles registered before 2001 they're using the cc to calculate emissions.

I'm now wondering if they're defaulting to cc to calculate the CO2 emissions for bikes which is why most are free.

I've just had a look at the spec for the Yamaha Super Tenere and they don't give CO2 emissions either.

I could ask them how they've calculated bike CO2 emissions but it would be easier if I can just tell them what they are for my GS.
 
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phillh said:
Show them your V5, motorcycles do not have CO2 emissions recorded on the V5, therefore they cant prove your GS is over 100g/km. Incidently, what are they doing about people whose cars were registered before 2001 and dont have their emissions recorded?
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+1.

Name and shame this Nazi employer please. This is Fekkin outrageous.

Charging for parking at work is really bad. Plus what the fuck has it got to do with your employer what you drive? Have they turned into a tax authority?

Wankers.
 
Sadly, it's probably best if I don't name and shame my employer just in-case they start stretching wire over the car park entrance. However, I've done a bit of digging and now thing that because bike CO2 emissions aren't available, they just go by cc which makes my GS the same as a 1200cc car. It's a big and heavy bike but that's bloody ridiculous! I've now sent an email asking how they get a GS at 120g/km and will post an update when I get a response.

It's strange that BMW don't publish CO2 emissions for the GS on their site. At present, all I have as evidence is the http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/bmw_r_1200_gs_2012.php which lacks a degree of authority but it's a good starting point. If anyone has anything from BMW, it would be very much appreciated.

Thanks
 
BMW state that their motorcycles comply with Euro 3 emission standards. For motorcycle >150cc the limits are: CO = 2 g/km HC - 0.3 g/km NOx = 0.15 g/km

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Does that help....? :nenau
 
A GS is not really that fuel efficient so you can see where the employer is coming from. But why on earth have they gone down this route. Sounds like its a government job. They are full of jobsworths.
At my employ we have a car share scheme. They get a priority parking place. A noble idea.
 
Cornwallis said:
Sadly, it's probably best if I don't name and shame my employer just in-case they start stretching wire over the car park entrance. However, I've done a bit of digging and now thing that because bike CO2 emissions aren't available, they just go by cc which makes my GS the same as a 1200cc car. It's a big and heavy bike but that's bloody ridiculous! I've now sent an email asking how they get a GS at 120g/km and will post an update when I get a response.

It's strange that BMW don't publish CO2 emissions for the GS on their site. At present, all I have as evidence is the http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/bmw_r_1200_gs_2012.php which lacks a degree of authority but it's a good starting point. If anyone has anything from BMW, it would be very much appreciated.

Thanks
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That website also states that the output is 48 hp!!:eek:

And lists the 2005 with 96.55hp giving 104.4 CO2 g/km. (CO2 - Carbon dioxide emission)
 
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Schtum said:
BMW state that their motorcycles comply with Euro 3 emission standards. For motorcycle >150cc the limits are: CO = 2 g/km HC - 0.3 g/km NOx = 0.15 g/km

Does that help....? :nenau
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CO (Carbon Monoxide) is not quite the same thing as CO2 (Carbon Dioxide) but then again maybe your employer doesn't know that.
 
Yep, wankers I say. You can start a grievance procedure against the employer for not considering motorcyclists or motorcycles as a mode of transport. The system they have set up is therefore incomplete and flawed. They should use the government collected data or vehicle road exercise duty tables for determining the fee bracket in which a particular vehicle falls. This data should also be based on EU guidelines which the manufactures use and for modern cars this can be obtained from the manufacturer website. They should also have dedicated parking spaces for motorcycles.
 
Cornwallis said:
To help save the planet, my employer has introduced parking charges based on C02 emissions. I always assumed that my GS would be free but when I put the registration number into the on-line calculator it came out at 120 (Group 2) which is the same as a Ford Focus 1.6 so I’d have to pay.

Bikes and cars under 100 are free but I’ve been unable to get any official information (BMW or government) on the emissions for my 2006 1200GS. However, I did find a website claiming that it’s 99.8 but I need something with more clout before taking it to my employer.

Any official information on emissions would be greatly appreciated. And, as I have a 9 to 5 job, I’m not interested in information on nocturnal emissions!

Thanks
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not nice, hope you get a good result, a glance round the web can find some reports of big bikes at 150 g/km! might be better to argue the whole principle of the thing (bikes cause less congestion etc)

at least they are not pushing car sharing, thats when car drivers can start dividing g/km by the number of passengers, then we lose out more (unless you have a sidecar handy)

my 1250cc car does better mpg than my GS and CO2 is better (if we assume GS is 120ish), says it all really, maybe time for an F800??
 
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