what would be the cheapest guzzi

Outtomunch said:
That looks like a V50 lump? In which case I'd steer well clear.

Andres
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The MkIII V50's were lovely little things. Unfortunately I had a MkII :D

The V50's were fine (apart from the electronic ignition on the mkII) it was the v65 that suffered
 
Some potential here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1968-MOTO...120f1e3&pid=100005&rk=4&rkt=6&sd=172263177491

This is lovely http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Moto-Guzz...629671?hash=item5b27047da7:g:TA0AAOSwbYZXdXRm shame its a carc

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Spada http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTO-GUZZ...d362b40&pid=100005&rk=3&rkt=6&sd=282080058314
 
Outtomunch said:
What about a V9 then (850 engine)? The only problem is they are still quite new so 2nd hand will be an issue. I keep looking at them and am sorely tempted. I think the basic bike is almost there for me and wouldn't take a lot to make it 'just so'.

Andres
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The V9 Reminds me of the 1980 250 Harley

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Outtomunch said:
Did they not have a reputation for trash exhaust valves?

Andres
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Dunno.

I had one for a couple of years in 1980 but have never heard anything about valves.

The ignition on the MkII didn't advance. They went back to points on the MKIII. The V50's handled like they were on rails, they were great fun.

For some strange reason I thought this was a good idea in 1980 :D

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Rob Farmer said:
Some potential here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1968-MOTO...120f1e3&pid=100005&rk=4&rkt=6&sd=172263177491

This is lovely http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Moto-Guzz...629671?hash=item5b27047da7:g:TA0AAOSwbYZXdXRm shame its a carc

$_12.JPG


Spada http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTO-GUZZ...d362b40&pid=100005&rk=3&rkt=6&sd=282080058314
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Why don't you like carc? I'm curious because I've got a 1200 Sport and previously had a 1200 Griso and have had no issues with the transmission. Cam followers though are another issue.....
 
Purely for that reason. Dave said he didn't want to have to get the spanners out and I know the carc bikes can be a bit hit and miss with reliability.
 
The 1100s are ok aren't they? No cam follower problems on this engine? The 1200 engine is a belter though, happy to be revved, and makes an awesome noise even on the standard pipe (Sport). The Griso sounded (and looked) best with a Termi.
 
To be fair, I never found any of the old ones any less reliable than the new ones, in fact I have had more little issues with the newer ones,

misty clocks, failing speedo senders, battery issues,

my Breva 1100, needed charged once a week if unused, my convert needed charged once over the winter, the chrome on the forks peeled on the Breva,

if I was using it as an only bike, I wouldn't have a Guzzi, but nor would I have a BMW,

the plus of owning an old Guzzi, is that it's long ago hit the rock bottom price, so you feel less guilty leaving it in the garage, or sorning it over winter they have much more character than airheads and the newer guzzi models,

sure they can get expensive if you cant wield a spanner and if they do go wrong, but that is the same for any bike, and I always say, but never do, the cheapest bike to buy is a fully well restored bike.
 
ianboydsnr said:
To be fair, I never found any of the old ones any less reliable than the new ones, in fact I have had more little issues with the newer ones,

misty clocks, failing speedo senders, battery issues,

my Breva 1100, needed charged once a week if unused, my convert needed charged once over the winter, the chrome on the forks peeled on the Breva,

if I was using it as an only bike, I wouldn't have a Guzzi, but nor would I have a BMW,

the plus of owning an old Guzzi, is that it's long ago hit the rock bottom price, so you feel less guilty leaving it in the garage, or sorning it over winter they have much more character than airheads and the newer guzzi models,

sure they can get expensive if you cant wield a spanner and if they do go wrong, but that is the same for any bike, and I always say, but never do, the cheapest bike to buy is a fully well restored bike.
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dont say that you will get me all confused again over which way to go (bike wise i mean)
 
ianboydsnr said:
To be fair, I never found any of the old ones any less reliable than the new ones, in fact I have had more little issues with the newer ones,

misty clocks, failing speedo senders, battery issues,

my Breva 1100, needed charged once a week if unused, my convert needed charged once over the winter, the chrome on the forks peeled on the Breva,

if I was using it as an only bike, I wouldn't have a Guzzi, but nor would I have a BMW,

the plus of owning an old Guzzi, is that it's long ago hit the rock bottom price, so you feel less guilty leaving it in the garage, or sorning it over winter they have much more character than airheads and the newer guzzi models,

sure they can get expensive if you cant wield a spanner and if they do go wrong, but that is the same for any bike, and I always say, but never do, the cheapest bike to buy is a fully well restored bike.
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my experience of old guzzis is that sorted bikes are little trouble, including the much maligned electrics, even the switchgear is ok and that includes the early snuff box stuff. alternator rotors fail sometimes, but less so than on BMW airheads IME.

old shitters can be much more of a problem, but it's amazing what faults they can tolerate and still keep going.

being handy with a spanner is a big advantage with any old bike.
 
prior to fuel injected ones (coz i aint got one of them)

cookie said:
my experience of old guzzis is that sorted bikes are little trouble, including the much maligned electrics, even the switchgear is ok and that includes the early snuff box stuff. alternator rotors fail sometimes, but less so than on BMW airheads IME.

old shitters can be much more of a problem, but it's amazing what faults they can tolerate and still keep going.

being handy with a spanner is a big advantage with any old bike.
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If a Guzzi can cope with me as an owner - it's the best reference i can give it.
I got mine at 5k miles, 16 years ago. Now it's got 72k miles on it. I'd only sell it to get another Guzzi.

EDIT
... twice i've typed a long reply and deleted it as waffle.
If you have Basic mechanical knowledge and experience. If you can learn basic electrics (my weak point) you can run a Guzzi and be very happy with it.
I could tell many stories / give examples, but i waffle enough as it is, so i wont. :P
 
Ogmios said:
If a Guzzi can cope with me as an owner - it's the best reference i can give it.
I got mine at 5k miles, 16 years ago. Now it's got 72k miles on it. I'd only sell it to get another Guzzi.

EDIT
... twice i've typed a long reply and deleted it as waffle.
If you have Basic mechanical knowledge and experience. If you can learn basic electrics (my weak point) you can run a Guzzi and be very happy with it.
I could tell many stories / give examples, but i waffle enough as it is, so i wont. :P
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i like stories feel free to continue ...............no swear words though
 
I've only had my Cali 1100i, my first Guzzi, for three months or so, and I've done around 2000 miles. I've had the K75S out twice in that time. The other three Airheads are sorned and I don't think they will be coming out this year. In fact I have offered a couple up for a swop, for a Guzzi, T3 or maybe a Falcone! Couldn't be without my BM's, but I can definitely see another Guzzi in my future. Had a few "what have I done" moments, particularly with the linked brakes and the heel and toe gear change, not to mention the nine or so neutrals. I've come to like it though, bags of character.
 
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