Starting to think of a slow refrb of the 100gs, starting with the spokes. how feasible is it for me to replace each spoke one at a time and then getting the wheel properly trued up?
Wheel refurb
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Northern Monkey
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I bought stainless spokes from Germany £88 for the pair delivered, vapour blasted hubs , polished the rims then it cost about £35 per wheel to be built and trued- wasn't worth diy for me! 
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Northern Monkey
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And trying to remove the spokes was a spectacular fail! Not one spoke would come out! ( angle grinder worked a treat!)
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Beemerboff
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Like NM says, chances of unscrewing the spokes is worse than slim.
Then you have to hope that nothing goes wrong while you remove and replace the spokes and that is extremely unlikely.
Then the prospect that you will be able to true the rims is probably distinctly worse than the first two possibilities, so not a project where I would hold out a lot of hope for success.
But some folks claim to have done it easily without any problems, so you might be as lucky as to live on the same planet as them!
Then you have to hope that nothing goes wrong while you remove and replace the spokes and that is extremely unlikely.
Then the prospect that you will be able to true the rims is probably distinctly worse than the first two possibilities, so not a project where I would hold out a lot of hope for success.
But some folks claim to have done it easily without any problems, so you might be as lucky as to live on the same planet as them!
I bought stainless spokes from Germany £88 for the pair delivered, vapour blasted hubs , polished the rims then it cost about £35 per wheel to be built and trued- wasn't worth diy for me!
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I was planning on cutting each spoke with a Dremel and replacing them individually. However, vapour blasting the hub would be a bonus given the prices you mention. Got a source for this German spokes?
Northern Monkey
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Yes I have them at home - will post the details later - they were 'cloverleaf' ones which are apparently the original ones?!?
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solidstate100
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Thanks for the supplier id, much cheaper than what I was going to pay from Boxxerworks.....
Excellent. Many thanks for that.
Edit: gone up a bit 180.90 Euros inc postage for 80 spokes.
Edit: gone up a bit 180.90 Euros inc postage for 80 spokes.
Try Hagon, you should find then more cost effective!
From my experience they are a nightmare!! It took me all day to remove the spokes and had to heat everyone until they were glowing hot, then hours of polishing, blasting, and building. You then still have them to true up, very tricky if you haven't done then before. Central wheels in the midlands will do them start to finish for £185 a rim ( I think from memory ) they have just started doing BMW rims. I will dig out the number if you want it?
chrisshrops
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Seems a bargain to me
Beemerboff
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For 196 quid you still have to dismantle them yourself, and polishing the hub/ rim is another 35 quid each.
And you probably have to supply and fit the grub screws yourself if you decide you want them.
There are two distinct problems when building the wheels yourself, one is assembling them and getting them true , which is difficult but not impossible.
The second is keeping the rim true while you tighten the spokes to the correct tension with your 40 quid spoke tension spanner.
Central wheel didn't offer the service for around 30 years which tells you how difficult it is.
And you probably have to supply and fit the grub screws yourself if you decide you want them.
There are two distinct problems when building the wheels yourself, one is assembling them and getting them true , which is difficult but not impossible.
The second is keeping the rim true while you tighten the spokes to the correct tension with your 40 quid spoke tension spanner.
Central wheel didn't offer the service for around 30 years which tells you how difficult it is.
http://www.devonwheelbuilding.com/prices.html . This chap does the building and trueing for £70.
No, central wheel do the whole lot including dismantling. Just post the rims as they are and the rest is taken care of by them.
Beemerboff
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Sorry,if I have it wrong but I read it as the dismantling was an extra , charged at hourly rates.
I'll go back and read it again.
FWIW I rebuilt my GS wheels using a" Radco jig" , managed to get the spokes in and the rim relatively true, but no matter what I did with the tensioning it pulled the rim out of true and I ended up paying a wheel builder to do the final tension/truing.
I'll go back and read it again.
FWIW I rebuilt my GS wheels using a" Radco jig" , managed to get the spokes in and the rim relatively true, but no matter what I did with the tensioning it pulled the rim out of true and I ended up paying a wheel builder to do the final tension/truing.
Here is the guy to do your wheels, he did a ktm wheel for me.recommended.
I'm Barrie from Re-spoke & Be-spoke, I'd be pleased to discuss your wheel building requirements if you wish ........ . I'm Scotland based (Windygates in Fife) and will cater for machines veteran, vintage, classic and modern, specials and customs included. I can provide stainless spokes and rims, aluminium alloy, plain steel, coloured rims/spokes, tyres etc. I also have machining facilities and can do brake drum skims, manufacture/modify parts etc...
My phone numbers are 01333 352102, 07711916722, you can also catch me on my E-Mail [email protected] .....
I'm Barrie from Re-spoke & Be-spoke, I'd be pleased to discuss your wheel building requirements if you wish ........ . I'm Scotland based (Windygates in Fife) and will cater for machines veteran, vintage, classic and modern, specials and customs included. I can provide stainless spokes and rims, aluminium alloy, plain steel, coloured rims/spokes, tyres etc. I also have machining facilities and can do brake drum skims, manufacture/modify parts etc...
My phone numbers are 01333 352102, 07711916722, you can also catch me on my E-Mail [email protected] .....
Thanks all. Think I have all the info I need now.
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