Will not start

[Deleted Account GS]

Turn key lights come on Neutral and the rest press starter button it tries to start but cannot.

\\\\\\\\\Tries again and again and it says i am in 2nd gear i cannot be bothered with the bike.

Has enough petrol battery was fine yesterday, i am just getting bored with the bikes problems now.

what could it be and please tell me it doesn't involve more money i aint taking it 90miles to the nearest dealers on a trailer.

 

[cookie]

it says i am in 2nd gear

sounds like water in the gear indicator module on the back of the gearbox thinks it's in gear so won't go.

bung some WD40 at it, wait for it to dry out. does it start if you pull in the clutch?

 

[Deleted Account GS]

No doesn't start if i pull the clutch in. but it also jumps back into Neutral when i try the ignition after a while

 

[cookie]

but it is really in neutral the whole time, isn't it?

i have heard of this before where the ECU thinks it's in gear so won't start. i couldn't understand why it also wouldn't go with the clutch pulled in, as it would if all was operating normally.

anyway, it was the gear position unit that was faulty/wet. replaced and it all worked fine.

 

[twofat]

Same but different

I gave my 06 12gs a wash the other day, with the front panels removed. After getting that done, I decided to make sure it would start, concerned about water around the fuel controller. All the checks went through ok, but absolutely nothing from the starter. Not even a click. I tried 2 or 3 times, then gave it a rest for a while. I then disconnected the battery, gave the terminals and connections a wipe over, reconnected everything and away it went. No further problems.
I spoke to the dealer service manager about it and he said that it was out of the ordinary, but by disconnecting the battery then reconnecting it, the computer is reset
Give it a try.

 

[Deleted Account GS]

Fixed sort of

Charged the battery and it all is good apart from when i put it in the bike and still didn't start.


Looked on the forum for possible fixes and tried the Fuel pump fix using 2 wires to connect them instead of cutting them like the pic below. Any way all is well but just to make sure the second pic below is the FUEL PUMP CONTROLLER? as i dont want to order the wrong thing.

This site proves more and more benifitial thanks

 

[Sixpack]

Same problem

I'm having the same kind of problem when I switch on the bike it swaps between first second and neutral and wont start unless I pull in the clutch. Where exactly is the gear indicator module?
Thanks,
Sixpack

 

[Deleted Account GS]

I dont like the sound of having to pull the clutch in to start it all the time if yours is under warrenty take it in.

 

[cookie]

Where exactly is the gear indicator module?
Thanks,
Sixpack

back of the gearbox.

 

[Thunder]

Any way all is well but just to make sure the second pic below is the FUEL PUMP CONTROLLER? as i dont want to order the wrong thing.

It is, well fuel pump relay

 

[Pathologic]

back of the gearbox.

Where is the gear box?

 

[davegs]

Where is the gear box?

In the top box, silly boy.

 

[Dreamer]

Me toooooooooooooo!
(I was about to post the same question but thought I'd use the Search button before posting and came up trumps.)

After over 3 years of perfect running (all year, rain or shine), I'm now having exactly the problem described... first thing in the morning, having wheeled the bike out of the garage the gear indicator sometimes shows blank, sometimes jumps between 2/3/1/3/2/3/2 etc. Won't start (or starts then stops), but is fine with clutch pulled in. Only does it first thing in morning though, seems fine after that.

I've been enjoying lots of splashing through floods in the luverley summer weather this week - sounds like this is the cause of my problem? I'll try to locate the gear indicator thinghy and dry it out. Any tips to prevent the problem re-occuring in the wet?

 

[Dreamer]

Courtesy of ADVRider...

Apparantly #3 is the little bugger

 

[Tim Cullis]

make sure the second pic below is the FUEL PUMP CONTROLLER? as i dont want to order the wrong thing.

Yes that's the fuel pump controller. It comprises a small printed circuit board in the base under the very thick rubberised seal, with a massive heat sink on top. The consensus is that it fails due to overheating, not water ingress.

So with the bypass the bike is working OK? Your earlier symptoms didn't sound like the FPC problem and I'm wondering if the bike starting OK now is just a coincidence.

Try undoing the bypass to see whether the bike now starts. If so I'd say it was a temporary glitch elsewhere.

Tim