► Lights, indicators, electrics and alarm

If you purchase the HID headlamp kit from Les Wassell, it's a simple matter of removing the existing 50w bulbs and using those connection to feed the 50w HIDs. No cutting, no splicing and totally reversable.

If you want to wire auxilliary lights, you need to use a relay to control power takeoff from the battery.

Canbus Idiot's Guide

Tim
 
Thanks for both replies.

I eventually spliced into the supply to the 12v socket - this will supply the power for the GPS and Autocom, no overloading problems there I think.

I was primarily concerned that the 50W HID might not have the same running current 'footprint' as a filament bulb has.. I guess all I can do is suck it and see. I am a notorious tightwad, and have found a supply of 50W HID kits - two ballasts/capsules etc., albeit with long harnesses - for just over £60.00 delivered... Warm-up time might be an issue though - I'll have to look.

Cheers

Greg
 
All good info, but look again at the original post - Im trying to get info on how I determine which appliance of which voltage I can use on the bike without causing things to blow up / WHY is Can Bus wiring better than wiring to battery re GPS etc - technical info for dummies, really. Can you help ?? :mmmm
 
All good info, but look again at the original post - Im trying to get info on how I determine which appliance of which voltage I can use on the bike without causing things to blow up / WHY is Can Bus wiring better than wiring to battery re GPS etc - technical info for dummies, really. Can you help ?? :mmmm

Wiring direct to the battery is better because your CANBUS system can only supply a very small amount of current.

Wiring through the CANBUS means that the bike turns everything off automatically, and your spotlights don't end up draining your battery because you forgot about them.

The ideal soltion is to fit a relay (or series of relays) that is switched by the CANBUS system, and run all of your accessories off that. This is basically what the Centech panel does for you, and it also gives you a fuse for each device.

Sorted?
 
Philips H7 Extreme headlight bulbs.

Popped the dip beam on the 800 a couple of days ago, so used that as an excuse to get a pair of Philips Extreme H7's as replacements for the pathetic things that pretend to be headlight bulbs.

Just fitted them as it's coming dark. I haven't been any distance with them due to icy roads forcing me to drink beer, but first impressions are mucho brighter.

I also noticed that my headlamp unit was positioned (by the factory) to light up the way for any voles that may be around 1m in front of me and feckall else......

The lamps look good - anyone used them for any distance yet?
 
Unfortunately the Vibes on the bike seem to kill these type of bulbs prematurely.
 
Unfortunately the Vibes on the bike seem to kill these type of bulbs prematurely.

I must be in luck then :aidan had mine in for going on 8 months now! 60% offroad too.

They do make a huge improvement over the rubbish the bike comes with.Roads signs are more visable,lit. ust don't understand why the phillips will shake to death, they are better quality.:nenau
 
Fitted a set of Les Wassall's HIDs to my 800, so not planning to fit the Philips bulbs in that.:augie

However I bought a pair of the Philips Extreme bulbs for my old Discovery, and they're a big improvement on the standard H4s, but that was before I read about the fragility issue, so I'm keeping the old bulbs in the vehicle as spares, just in case. I'm hoping there won't be as much vibration as on the bike, but the extra light is welcome - most of where I have to drive, there aren't any streetlights.
 
Had my Philips Extreme bulbs in main and dipped since day 1. Nearly 5000 miles later (all road or easy trail), still going strong.

They light up road signs a mile away - just like the Xenons in my car :D
 
Retrofit BMW LED Indicators

I've seen this listed as an option (£70) but they weren't when I got mine.

They look way cooler than the stock items and are lots brighter too.

Price for the parts to retrofit is £119 and I'm told I'll also need a £27 canbus reprogram.

Anyone else tried this yet? Experiences?

Or am I the guinea pig? :clap
 
If they're the same as the LED indicators for the 1200 then there won't be a Can-Bus reprogram. Mine were simple plug-n-play.
 
Fitted a set of Les Wassall's HIDs to my 800, so not planning to fit the Philips bulbs in that.:augie


How much brighter / better are the hid's in comparison to the Philips bulbs . Are they really worth the money?
 
I've seen this listed as an option (£70) but they weren't when I got mine.

They look way cooler than the stock items and are lots brighter too.

Price for the parts to retrofit is £119 and I'm told I'll also need a £27 canbus reprogram.

Anyone else tried this yet? Experiences?

Or am I the guinea pig? :clap

Already done my 800. They do take a little while to do as some bodywork needs to come off. So I added the wind deflectors at the same time. No can-bus update is required. They do look cool too :thumb
 
How much brighter / better are the hid's in comparison to the Philips bulbs . Are they really worth the money?

Not an easy question for me to answer as I can't really compare the two. The bike went from its OE H7 bulbs straight to HiDs.
The Disco went from standard H4 bulbs to the Philips ones.

The bike:
The HiDs make a big difference to the dip beam, but since I can't use main beam for very long at a time, you don't notice the difference between dip and main so much as the main beam unit takes a few seconds to come to full brightness - you notice the difference more when you dip the lights, as that change is instantaneous.

The Disco:
The Philips bulbs make a noticeable difference to its lights; it's difficult to say how accurate their improvement claim is, but I think it was money well spent. However if Halfrauds hadn't been selling them as a BOGOF deal, I don't think I'd have tried them, since of my two vehicles, the bike gets the preferential treatment - it cost more than three times what the Disco did, after all.

Sorry if that doesn't help you...:D
 
How much brighter / better are the hid's in comparison to the Philips bulbs . Are they really worth the money?

Standard lights = bright
Extreme Bulbs = 80% brighter
HID's = 100% or more depending on make - and longer lasting

If you have the budget and want the ultimate, go for HID.

I got my Extremes off fleaBay for £25 a pair - a bargain deal I can't find for less than £30 now. :nenau
 


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