1100 shock options

MattW

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My original '94 shocks are getting very tired and I'd like to replace them as I'm on a few two up, fully loaded trips this year.

Last time I checked, a pair of Ohlins were the best part of £1500 and Wilburs around £1k - currently too much of a financial stretch :rolleyes: and while I love my old bus, it seems semi ridiculous to have to spend a half (or more) of its value on shocks...

Anyone know of any other less eye-watering suspension options for venerable 1100's?

Cheers
Matt
 
Seems a lot for Wilbers - I enquired here in RoI for 1150GS and rear was around €350 - €400 but that was without remote rear preload so maybe that's where you get £1k? Still would have expected bit less.
 
Have you tried creeping up behind it and popping a balloon?

.................. Well that's one shock option ........:aidan
 
Rebuild what you have (uprate springs if necessary ... but decide before o'haul dampers , as these ARE related)
I've just sent two std shocks away to Firefox - so I'll wait and see how they go , before saying more ..... a much more cost effective option , and if orig were good for the 60,000 miles done - then hopefully these may be too ??
 
Thanks everyone for the replies - plenty to think about.

I have thought about getting mine rebuilt, but at getting on for 20 years old I wonder if it would really be worth it. The rear damping adjuster is seized and immovable (despite lots of different releaseants and heat etc), the rubber hose connecting the preload adjuster to the shock is chaffed and would probably need replacing, the spring paint is peeling in places and I've been told that the early front shocks can't be rebuilt due to their construction.

With regards to new options, I guess remote preload is pretty essential as it's a wheel off and remove the shock job to get at it with a pair of c-spanners?...
 
With regards to new options, I guess remote preload is pretty essential as it's a wheel off and remove the shock job to get at it with a pair of c-spanners?...

I'm waiting for a HyperPro rear shock to arrive for my 1150. I decided that I wouldn't bother with the preload adjuster because the two times I've ever bothered to use it didn't add up to £125 a go.

PS. I'm expecting my new shock to be set-up perfectly before arrival. ;)
 
I am running an 1150 front shock on my 1100, it is fine and apparently an upgrade on the 1100 item :thumb
I repainted the spring on my rear WP one without dismantling it, and with careful masking it looks pretty good too :thumb
 
Unless you're on tar-only and riding on only on Sundays I'd steer clear from Öhlins & Wilbers. I've learned this in a hard way (with both of those names combined it was a loss in £££ that makes me puke every time I think about it)...

Anything offroad or heavy duty I'd say Hyperpro. They have progressive springs at stock and I highly recommend to pay that little extra and get the "piggyback" (or remote reservoir) version on the shock where the gas and oil are separated (it's called "3D" model in the Hyperpro line), it's a more reliable and better working solution compared to the single "emulsion" (oil and gas are mixed) shocks.

Front shock on the telelever rigs isn't that critical since forks themselves work as additional shockabsorbers and keep the overall mechanics tight (although a good shock is still a big improvement over original), yet the simple rear linkless paralever swingarm takes a lot of abuse on offroad so get the best you can afford and it makes day/nigh difference.

And if you're weight varies a lot (2up/solo/gear) then a remote preloader is a must indeed, also if you're heavy bloke yourself or ride often 2up full gear then get a harder spring (Hyperpro installs it w/o additional cost), 150-220Nm/mm is a good choice (it's 150Nm/mm in longest position - just like the stock setting) yet when it's on maximum compressed it's a whopping 220Nm/mm - it's more than Öhlin's hard version of spring you normally pay extra £££ to get it and yet it's stiff without load and still bottoms out with load since it's a simple linear spring - it doesn't have the "stopping" counter-acceleration that only the progressive springs offer, progressives offer the best of both worlds IMO - they're soft as magic carpet on normal riding conditions and work like proper stiff racing-shocks when put into extremes).

Margus
 
I'm waiting for a HyperPro rear shock to arrive for my 1150. I decided that I wouldn't bother with the preload adjuster because the two times I've ever bothered to use it didn't add up to £125 a go.

PS. I'm expecting my new shock to be set-up perfectly before arrival. ;)

I'd be happy to forgo the remote preload but for the fact that I use my 1100 for everything from solo unloaded to two up with panniers etc. So I really need some way of adjusting preload (without having to dismantle the bike first :) )

I am running an 1150 front shock on my 1100, it is fine and apparently an upgrade on the 1100 item :thumb
I repainted the spring on my rear WP one without dismantling it, and with careful masking it looks pretty good too :thumb

Thanks Stewart - i'll look into getting hold of an 1150 front.

Unless you're on tar-only and riding on only on Sundays I'd steer clear from Öhlins & Wilbers. I've learned this in a hard way (with both of those names combined it was a loss in £££ that makes me puke every time I think about it)...

Anything offroad or heavy duty I'd say Hyperpro. They have progressive springs at stock and I highly recommend to pay that little extra and get the "piggyback" (or remote reservoir) version on the shock where the gas and oil are separated (it's called "3D" model in the Hyperpro line), it's a more reliable and better working solution compared to the single "emulsion" (oil and gas are mixed) shocks.

Front shock on the telelever rigs isn't that critical since forks themselves work as additional shockabsorbers and keep the overall mechanics tight (although a good shock is still a big improvement over original), yet the simple rear linkless paralever swingarm takes a lot of abuse on offroad so get the best you can afford and it makes day/nigh difference.

And if you're weight varies a lot (2up/solo/gear) then a remote preloader is a must indeed, also if you're heavy bloke yourself or ride often 2up full gear then get a harder spring (Hyperpro installs it w/o additional cost), 150-220Nm/mm is a good choice (it's 150Nm/mm in longest position - just like the stock setting) yet when it's on maximum compressed it's a whopping 220Nm/mm - it's more than Öhlin's hard version of spring you normally pay extra £££ to get it and yet it's stiff without load and still bottoms out with load since it's a simple linear spring - it doesn't have the "stopping" counter-acceleration that only the progressive springs offer, progressives offer the best of both worlds IMO - they're soft as magic carpet on normal riding conditions and work like proper stiff racing-shocks when put into extremes).

Margus

Thanks for this Margus - i'll take a look at hyperpro. As you've just said, my riding varies between solo with nothing to two up fully loaded so I think I definitely need remote preload and possibly the 150-220 Nm/mm spring you mention. I'm about 80kg so I think this compromise would be ok solo. I don't think my budget will stretch to the piggyback version but I could possibly get at least an emulsion rear with remote preload.

Cheers
Matt
 
There must be loads of low mileage original shocks lying about in the backs of garages - sheds and the like - I still have mine - taken off at 20K - gathering dust.

have them refurbished - with hyper pro springs and there you go.
 
I've a set I bought for 180 quid. English pounds. I bought them off xyz. Member on here. i paid too much and their just sitting in the garage. They have a receipt of 160 for refurb from a.. Springs need changing. Seem good otherwise. 100 of your English pounds. Their yours when you organise collection delivery! Might put an ad up but if interested send pm and I'll take a picture of them.
 
Buy British

Don't overlook Hagon, using a pair on my 1200, much improved over the originals, rebuildable, and cheap compared to the Euro offerings. Used one on my Bandit years ago, lasted for over 20k until the bike was written off by blind bitch........but thats another story! ;)
 
My simple HyperPro is due today if ParcelFarce deliver it, rather than just a card telling me I was at home. :augie

Thankfully I won't end up in THIS situation.

I'll let you know how it goes once the MOT has been done.
 
My simple HyperPro is due today if ParcelFarce deliver it, rather than just a card telling me I was at home. :augie

Thankfully I won't end up in THIS situation.

I'll let you know how it goes once the MOT has been done.

Great stuff - I'll be very interested to hear what you think - a remote adjustable hyperpro is now at the top of my list if I can scrape the funds together - I'll probably get hold of an 1150 unit for the front.
 
If you have one, hyper pro will use your existing preload adjuster and Graft it onto your new hyperpro shock. Should you buy one! Their good like that.
 


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