A disappointed GS Adv rider

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Just back from the motogp and friends down south and have
the following observation from my return trip...... 200 miles of boring motorway is achey bum timeo:( ... but the next 250 plus miles of nice twisty A roads is no problemo :D and far more entertaining.
 
t2grr said:
....before I become an “ex Gs’er”.

Thank you.

Graeme

If you do, buy an RT1150, probably the most comfortable bike available.:cool:


You're Welcome:D
 
I guess I must have a fat arse....

Just back from Bulgaria 4046 miles in 7 days. Longest days run of 886 miles. No problems at all with comfort....Then perhaps I'm just a masochist:D
 
Re: The UK importers will also rip you off, big-time.

Paul Wakefield said:
I think you are being a little harsh. When I was looking, my (albeit not hugely extensive) research gave a cheapest US price of $170 plus $15 for shipping within the US. Say £103.

The delivered price over here was £138 (that was with a 10% online discount). Given that includes over £20 of VAT and £x duty, there is still a differential but not that big.

Paul

I got one for $157 including delivery to a friends house, who I was visiting in the US. Worked out at £89 with the exchange rate at the time (June 2004).

I bet the UK importer is getting them for a much lower price than what they retail in the US. Even allowing for duty and VAT, they are making a nice fat profit at our expense.

Bob
 
kiwiAdventure said:
I did not buy the Adventure for long rides on the tarseal. I got the bike for gravel and you tend to stand up a lot more when you are on the trails.

As do I, the Adventure seat is one of the better things about the bike IMO, that, the big tank and lower first where what sold me on it over the standard 1150 GS when I got mine in '02. I dislike the stock 1150 seat as you can't slide foward 'n backwards on it. Even when doing longer bitumen transport sections between the dirt bits, I find I stand regulalry and slide all over the place on the seat, must be force of habit ?

Normally by the end of the day my arse is a little sore but not to bad and multi day rides are no problems. On the other had riding my MTB for longer distances I DO get a sore arse :( As for two up touring, I did that once, never again !

I would suggest these guys stay WELL away from a KTM, the BMW seat is a longue chair by comparison :D
 
Butttttt Sore

If one has that extra bit of beef at the stool end, this helps aleviate any numbness that can creep in over a long haul. I covered 1200 klicks on the Adv. in one day. And at the end of it; still go to the throne room and pebble dash walls.

Otherwise try this website www.motorbike-seats.co.uk



:rolleyes:
 
...wow IMO this has got to be an arm chair of a bike have you thought of "buttock inplants!" :D .... seriously just done 2000miles on a Pan and that was a nightmare also done over 500miles in one hit on a Fazer 1000 which left me virtually crippled,ridden for long distances the following Blades,Thunderace,Firestorm,ZZR and Blackbirds,ZX12,CBR 1000 VFR 750 and without any thought the comfortablest is the GS I think standard over GSA but not a lot in it!!....ps if you want a home for your Sheepskin give us a PM:beer:
 
I have real problems with the seat too. I've the lower BMW version and am awaiting delivery of a replacement Corbin saddle. I'm hoping it provides the transformation that a Corbin had on my last bike. It was a fantastic improvement over that stock saddle.

I find the BMW seat too narrow and having just had a 700 mile long weekend in Pembrokeshire found that on the 200 miles leg there the only reason for stopping was the seat. Chasing the clock to get to camp before the gates shut is no time for a sore ass!!

I also find that wearing leathers is much more comfortable than Cordura and suggest you give it a try.

For the pillion, the Touratech seat extension is good value and takes pressure off the pillions knees. Sadly it cuts down on the rear shelf space.

Best of luck with your problem. My experience is that my bikes have to have some customisation and the cost of a seat is a small percentage of the investment in biking. Having ridden with a crowd that would spend £2,000 on a paint job, I'm not reluctant to spend £275 on a seat providing I get comfort. Good if you don't need too.

I'm buying my Corbin Adventure seat from Krooners in the USA for $520 (£280), discounted down from $640. The last Corbin I had, I sold on eBay for more than half what I paid. So, for the Adventure, I reckon £140 is no great cost.
 
Corbin Saddle

Hey Rollo,

Just made an enquiry with Krooners about Corbin adv. saddle.

Harry replied saying "yeah, we do export Corbins at discount
prices" but then went on to vaguely mention something about
"taxes".

Any idea what these are and if so, how much?.

Thanks for the lead and if it works out, it will be just about
half the price of Corbins UK distributor.

Charlie c.
 
Re: Corbin Saddle

charlie c. said:
Hey Rollo,

Just made an enquiry with Krooners about Corbin adv. saddle.

Harry replied saying "yeah, we do export Corbins at discount
prices" but then went on to vaguely mention something about "taxes".

Any idea what these are and if so, how much?.

Charlie c.

Yep, taxes are paid on import and approximate VAT rates. I recently imported about £300's worth of H-D gear and paid £6 in tax and £50 to the robbing b'tard shipping agent!
If you get someone to hand carry for you then you pay the tax when it's declared atthe airport (!). Alternatively, send it to a relative in the USA and they can forward it to you as a present/gift for Xmas and taxes are not paid on gifts or used items I believe. Anyway you do it, it's cheaper than buying locally with the exchange rate as it is.

If you buy right, then when you sell it on eBay, you'll get half of the UK price back, which will be a deal well done.
 
before I become an “ex Gs’er”.

Hey Graeme fancy a trade for my gs, 2001, 14000 miles fsh in top nick, I quite fancy an adventure but the new ones are too dear, I dont mind topping up the difference.
 
Rollo

I've been in contact with Krooners about the Corbin Dual Canyon Seat for a 2003 Adventure and the price they quoted me was $619 not $519 - did you do a special deal ?

Have you received the seat yet ? Did you have to pay any taxes/duty ? If so how much ?

More importantly how is the seat ? Comfy ?

Do you have a top box fitted ? What's the compatibility with the seat like ??

Denty
 
Not had any problems with my standard seat. 500+ miles in a day. Just a bit of a lower back pain. I guess that some people can get on with some bikes & others cant. People on this site found the VFR seat uncomfortable, but I never had any problems with it.

Baz
 
Re: Bar raisers

t2grr said:
Would bar raisers not mean I would bend my back further back?

I have long arms and am not stretching to reach the bars at the moment.

Thanks everyone for all your input so far.

Graeme

let me Guess,,,
keep in mind I know very little about your case or biometric template, but I can also assume that your shoulders are on the wide side and your arms on the long end(is call positive index)

I bet you have pain....
*in between your shoulder blades.
*discomfort and numbness on your fingers, hands and pain on your wrist.
* the "Pinky" side of your hands hurts more.
* also your knees don't feel that well..

I'm pretty sure this is your first and main problem is do to the Sweep on the bars.
NOTE: this is show on a R1150r but the problem is the same
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basically the Bend(sweep, ,pullback, pronounce angle of the grip) on the bars is forcing your hands to be on a different axis than the rest of you body,, in short your shoulders are far wider than the angle that the handlebars permit them to be comfortable.

do your self a favor and go and seat on your bike and you will notice how the palm of your hand "seats"(rest on top) of the grips on a angle of about 15 degrees(not perpenticular to the grip)(the wider the shoulders the worst this gets)when you try to apply full force to the levers your palm has the tendency to try to get in full contact with the grip, but this is difficult to achieve since the bars are more bend than they need to be ,when that happened your wrist is force into a unnatural angle (distal lock) since it can not move any farder(about 15 degrees of motion each way) the fore arm tries to compensate by moving next to the torso trying to align with the angle of the bars, the side effect of this is that the elbow get lock up and the end result is that your body end up steering the bike with your shoulder, this producing acute pain in your upper back specially in between your shoulder blades since the back duty is to rotate on the spine, something that the spine and upper back is not really design to do..

also assuming your arms are really long you have a added axis to deal with,,
I'm sure your elbows are lower(in reference to the ground) than your hand holding the bars, this generate one more axis for the wrist, ergo even more restriction in the nerves ,blood flow, and inefficiency on the muscles...


so what to do...let start from the bottom.
*you need to increase your leg room.
it can be done in a different ways, I prefer to do a little of everything so the impact is not to focus
get lower foot pegs like this
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so your legs and knee have more leg room, even better if they are wide since they spread the load of your body in a wider area decreasing pain and focal points.
*get a seat as tall as your are confident with, actually is many advantages to that, plus the bike will handle like a dream, you can also move your butt a little back to increase leg room.
the last thing you want is a CORBIN Seat, they are the worst for tall people, hell they are the wrost for any GS since the seat you really low and farder back but also since the are so wide they don't really give you a stand over height advantage.
*if you have long arm as i think you do you need to make more room for your arms so they are almost fully extent(not completely extend) this will empty a lower and more forward possition of the grips,the basic idea is to have the least amount of bend in any of your articulations that way the blod flows better and the nerves are not constricted
*the bar need to be "Flatter' so they for a proper trapezoid in reference with your shoulders, the arms need to be in line and your elbow pointing OUT as oppose to IN this way they will have a natural range of motion decreasing the pain in a big way...


I better stop before my head and your blow up..

NOTE Barbara from Alaska leather is one of the greatest people in the industry and I'm sure if you buttpad took so long to get to you home was not her fault,maybe the shipping method selected was to slow or the postal office not to efficient but for sure she was "on the ball" as ussual, BARB is fantastic and i wish the rest of the people on the industry were as careful and caring as she is..


I hope this helps,,the misconception are for sure many, and get even wrost when people Focus on "name product" as oppose to solutions..
remenber each person is diferent and their need vary do to a million difernt factors,the problem is to analize them and come to terms with them to produce a good compromise
 
gs seat

At 6ft 3 and 12.5 stone your problem is your to boney, I'm 6ft 3 15 stone, I don't have a gut, just a fat ASS
 
denty said:
Rollo

I've been in contact with Krooners about the Corbin Dual Canyon Seat for a 2003 Adventure and the price they quoted me was $619 not $519 - did you do a special deal ?

Have you received the seat yet ? Did you have to pay any taxes/duty ? If so how much ?

More importantly how is the seat ? Comfy ?

Do you have a top box fitted ? What's the compatibility with the seat like ??

Denty

I was quoted $519.95 and they gave that price after consulting with Corbin. Hope that's what I get charged, I have the confirming e-mail. Dealt with Krooners before and they have been very good.

I don't have the seat yet. It's being shipped to the US west coast and hand carried for me to avoid added costs. I'll get it when my my mate comes on his next business trip.
 
Thanks Rollo, I'll get on to Krooners and see what they say. I was going to ask you how much duty/vat etc you paid but I guess you'll avoid that one ?

Let me know the result and how good the seat is etc.

Cheers

Denty
 
ricardo> Thanks for a very imformative post :)

I suffer from the sort of pain you describe, I think it's caused in part by my current bike, so I'm hoping it will improve when I get my new GS soon (but not soon enough!). Having seen the picture of the bars you posted and compared it to the overhead shot of the 1200gs in the BMW brouchure, it seems the bars on the new bike may cause the same problem. I may try rotating the handlebars upwards, to lessen the angle, or investigate a replacement part.

Again, thanks for the info :)
 


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