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Misjudged it braked instead of leaning more and screwed it up, but it was good recovery and only a couple of second lost on his hot lap time
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Misjudged it braked instead of leaning more and screwed it up, but it was good recovery and only a couple of second lost on his hot lap time
How is it the essence? That statement contradicts itself surely? All the advanced training I've had has hammered home the same message 'Never sacrifice your position for safety and ride the road and conditions not the rider with you'. On this occasion neither rider rode the road, the first misjudged both road signs and all the visual indicators and the second was riding his back wheel which led to the brief off road adventure. I'd have thought the essence of motorcycling was the one to one interaction between rider, machine and the environment and the freedom that brings, not how close can I push my luck and ride someone else's ride.
There was recently a video on YouTube where a SEG rider span out, a lack of coefficient grip probably caused by two factors, not enough heat generated in his tyres due to the stop start nature of the convoy and too much gas when he set off again. I personally feel that the MPS have the best bikers in the world, but even the best make errors. Shouldn't blame your tools though as that makes you look amateur.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lkjxUQUP38E
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Or damp white line at the crossing
Fuck me there are some judgemental armchair fucktarts on here, I forgot how many riding fucking gods existed ONLY ON THIS SITE,
The words that seem to provoke the most juju hysterics on here are words like, ADVANCED , ROSPA andIAM.
This blokes a retired plod bike instructor, he has and still does coach, teach, mentor and help more non UKGSer riding gods, amputees and race crash riders from killing themselves on a bike than most of the keyboard worriers on here. It takes some balls to post something like that knowing the reputations damage it could cause, I accept bad workman blaming his tools is disappointing, but shit happens. Move on find a life for fuck sake.
Yes he's a mate, yes I have ridden with him a lot, yes I still binned my own bike six weeks ago, shit happens, no such thing as an accident, always a reason, why Bob followed him across the road on an 1100 pan I will never know?
Sorry bad day my bullshit acceptanomitor is running low!
IAM.I've obviously hit a nerve, and am sure the guy is a better rider than me, with loads more experience, but it's his arrogance to completely blame the bikes technology and take no responsibility for what is quite obviously rider error. As to him laughing about it afterwards, I highly doubt it.
I also blame Rick, as he's a bad omen.
I've obviously hit a nerve, and am sure the guy is a better rider than me, with loads more experience, but it's his arrogance to completely blame the bikes technology and take no responsibility for what is quite obviously rider error. As to him laughing about it afterwards, I highly doubt it.
I also blame Rick, as he's a bad omen.
I wasn't singling out any particular riding god Nutty
As I said workman blaming tools is disappointing.
Hay how day off today and about to go out and play for a couple of hundred miles, hope my new automatic suspension doesn't try to kill me
I wasn't singling out any particular riding god Nutty
As I said workman blaming tools is disappointing.
Hay how day off today and about to go out and play for a couple of hundred miles, hope my new automatic suspension doesn't kill me
Go steady and you'll be fine
That's a damn good video, enjoyed it
Thanks for posting
Thanks for posting
I don't ride fast enough to go off the road in such a manner.
Therefore I'm the better rider, along with thousands of other average Joe's.
Therefore I'm the better rider, along with thousands of other average Joe's.
The point that all you lot are missing is............
Because he was on a 2017 GS, when he suddenly 'decided' to go off road, his dynamic suspension adjusted in the blink on an eye and gave him a safe passage over the foliage. He should be praising the new suspension not slating it. Along with the 90/10 tyres, it saved him a broken collarbone or worse.
Now if he had the Rallye version he probably would have just stayed off road and enjoyed himself.
Happily nothing was coming the other way. But I too think he is a dick for blaming the bike.
Oh yeah you don't know my riding credentials but I'm entitled to my opinion so there it is
Because he was on a 2017 GS, when he suddenly 'decided' to go off road, his dynamic suspension adjusted in the blink on an eye and gave him a safe passage over the foliage. He should be praising the new suspension not slating it. Along with the 90/10 tyres, it saved him a broken collarbone or worse.
Now if he had the Rallye version he probably would have just stayed off road and enjoyed himself.
Happily nothing was coming the other way. But I too think he is a dick for blaming the bike.
Oh yeah you don't know my riding credentials but I'm entitled to my opinion so there it is
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Fair point that we werent there,i still think he recovered well,
In those circumstances having recovered ,and then going hard into the left hand bend with armco without checking the bike or the road with so many miles to do,
Displays a trust in the bike contrary to the statement of cause ,
a reasonable assumption is the rider felt there was nothing to check, and knew the cause,
Roamer
In those circumstances having recovered ,and then going hard into the left hand bend with armco without checking the bike or the road with so many miles to do,
Displays a trust in the bike contrary to the statement of cause ,
a reasonable assumption is the rider felt there was nothing to check, and knew the cause,
Roamer
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That's an interesting video. On first analysis it looks like a classic case of turning in too late, braking past the apex and the rider not having the confidence in either the bike and or the tyres to put enough lean on to make the corner.
Case closed? Actually no, the more I watch the video and the more I read about this fella I do wonder if there is more to it. A class 1 rider shouldn't find himself in this position and even if a lack of attention has lead to this incident (which of course it can) I'd wonder why he would post it on youtube and open himself up to all sorts of criticism.
Once leaned into the corner, the bike appears to taken a wider trajectory than its original path, almost as if the front suspension had got taller or stiffer. Also as the bike heads towards the RH verge it seems to rise again and sit back down. I'm not sure if the back wheel locked under braking, but don't these things have ABS????
It's a funny one, but if you look closely, the bike doesn't behave the way I'd expect it to. It does'nt appear to sit up (classic in these situations) and the rider doesn't seem to want to lean the bike further over. Which is confusing as with his experience you'd have thought he would know exactly what to do.
Case closed? Actually no, the more I watch the video and the more I read about this fella I do wonder if there is more to it. A class 1 rider shouldn't find himself in this position and even if a lack of attention has lead to this incident (which of course it can) I'd wonder why he would post it on youtube and open himself up to all sorts of criticism.
Once leaned into the corner, the bike appears to taken a wider trajectory than its original path, almost as if the front suspension had got taller or stiffer. Also as the bike heads towards the RH verge it seems to rise again and sit back down. I'm not sure if the back wheel locked under braking, but don't these things have ABS????
It's a funny one, but if you look closely, the bike doesn't behave the way I'd expect it to. It does'nt appear to sit up (classic in these situations) and the rider doesn't seem to want to lean the bike further over. Which is confusing as with his experience you'd have thought he would know exactly what to do.
Don't know why he posted the vid - he either had a lapse of concentration (which isn't good for him given his experience and expertise) or it's a heavy criticism of the 2017 GS- which is really bad for Bmw. Either way it raises concerns which these posts are seeking to explore ......clearly the inference is that it was a bike / tyre issue and that's what worries me
Could have been cagent breaking. Although with ABS, I would have thought that was a thing of the past. It looked like a minor brain fart to me. It was the no drama recovery , that set him apart from the ; also ran .
Is this their first time in France "Using the Excellent French Road Signs"??
That junction is subject to the French law of LA PRIORITÉ À DROITE – PRIORITY TO THE RIGHT! At the beginning of the footage at 0:07 they pass a sign which is warning triangle with an X in it. In France this sign means you do not have priority to traffic coming from the right.
There doesn't seem to be any acknowledgement of this or head turns to check any of the right-hand junctions.
