Any Basic WCs out there
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You don't.
It's a straight lucky dip from the production line.
Old Claus and young Franz, they build each bike with whatever is to hand.
Don't worry, you are just as likely to get a Dynamic variety (particularly if young Franz has been eyeing up the bird from accounts again) as you are to get the Wet version.
PS I can remember similar disquiet over bods really wondering whether BMW had actually fitted the lower ratio first gear, they'd specified.... And how could they find out.
Talking of which, whatever happened to the 'Must have option, or my bike won't make it up the hairpins'?
Acording to the dealer the basic LC is in road mode , which suits me
Sorry to disappoint, your's isn't.
I have no idea what the mode is, maybe it is 'standard' mode
Think you need to ride using the modes to appreciate the differences, certainly would not want Dynamic when off road, that would be like using a tractors foot throttle to Plow a field, at least in Enduro the throttle does not react to every little jolt of suspension on in-perfect tract.
Interesting to see what the basic LC would compare to mode wise,
1900 miles this past week and have used all modes to the point you can tell the need to change, this really is 4 bikes in 1.
Isn't throttle control a cheaper option
That is my feeling - the basic bike has a perfectly reasonable throttle response that is straightforward to control i.e. if you want slower twist less, if you want faster twist more, if it is wet twist gently.
BMW obviously know how to make a reasonable throttle response that is easy to get used to, why confuse oneself with a throttle response that changes, could be a potential danger to my mind - surely it's better to 'learn' one throttle action and become good at it than trying to learn 3 or 4 different ones?????
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Isn't throttle control a cheaper option
Sure it would be, but as BMW see fit to make you have it when ordering lower suspension, then there is little choice.
It's there it works, so I use it.
As for "Twist the throttle a little slower" commentary, this simply misses the mode operational changes that are made to the characteristics and flexibility of the bike.
If your so good you don't need it, great, but don't simply knock something you don't have any long term experience of using, a single test ride cannot possibly display the operational value short term.
And at the end of the day if it allows the average user confident access to more than Tarmac, that make it a value purchase does it not?
By the way, today's 290k was a mixture of on and off road and motorway sections on some of Northern Spain's finest, with all modes used at some point
I really am suprised that an 'electronics engineer' can't see the benefits that electronics can have. How many miles do you do? what type of roads do you go on? do you ride through the winter? two up? not quite sure you see the bigger picture.
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I think the point is it depends on the application. So, for example do you need an electric blanket in bed at night....hopefully not unless youre a complete wuss.
I ride almost every day and throughout winter, and two up fully loaded riding too - don't do huge mileage, about 10,000 per year. Electronics can have a benefit, electronic ignition, fuel injection, emissions etc but I prefer to keep the basic control of the dynamics simple and under my control.
If you think having traction control, riding modes, active suspension is a good thing that's great, it's just not for me.
We actually agree on somethingAppman, you use all 4modes in one day, not because you need them, but because they are there to play around with. I did 600 miles in a day and one of the bikes didn't have fuel injection
it didn't have much of a front brake either (gotta love those old monos ).
Appman, you use all 4modes in one day, not because you need them, but because they are there to play around with. I did 600 miles in a day and one of the bikes didn't have fuel injection
Of course we agree, just because electronics can do all sorts of good stuff it doesn't mean we have to fit it to everything, the marketing people just try to convince us because it allows them to differentiate their products and add value - I would do the same if I was selling bikes and some people actually enjoy having lots of gadgets which is good too.
But the LC isn't just about electronics and riding modes, it is also about the improved engine and chassis over the previous 1200 and that old 1150 tractor thing
Of course we agree, just because electronics can do all sorts of good stuff it doesn't mean we have to fit it to everything, the marketing people just try to convince us because it allows them to differentiate their products and add value - I would do the same if I was selling bikes and some people actually enjoy having lots of gadgets which is good too.
But the LC isn't just about electronics and riding modes, it is also about the improved engine and chassis over the previous 1200 and that old 1150 tractor thing
Agreed so why are we not talking about the bike instead of modes that people would or would not buy. Some see the benefit some don't but we both agree the new LC is onr hell of a bike.
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