Brand new, 2019 R1250GS “unsafe to drive” due to front Calliper leakage

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It does show time and time again if you want a bike that is relatively trouble free and "tested" wait 12 months after initial release.

While BMW have people pre-ordering and creating a demand then of course they will release bikes that may be not be as good in terms of quality control as they should.

Best to have market presence and cash in the bank and deal with warranty/quality issues later. While sales keep improving year on year.....

Has anyone wondered why BMW provide 3 years warranty from new and 2 years on used bikes? Is it because they have faith in the product or with all the noise about initial issues with 1200GS LC they wanted consumers to have confidence to purchase the shift cam...

If i was in the market for a shift cam I would wait at least 18 months for any issues to surface and be sorted.
 
malcopopolo said:
It does show time and time again if you want a bike that is relatively trouble free and "tested" wait 12 months after initial release.
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This is like life in general.

Some people get married to a wife that har been "tested and used before". Others takes the risk and marries a "virgin".
Some people then learn that the "virgin" was anything but such a description, and turned into a nasty creature as well. For others, it worked out well.

But history has shown that the marked for the virgins is never ending. It seems like humans don't want to learn from history. In fact, they see it as part of the thrill of life….
 
knutk said:
This is like life in general.

Some people get married .....
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I usually enjoy your contributions, but that seems a rather unfortunate choice of analogy which could be taken as offensive - maybe you should stick to the technical stuff you are good at?
 
malcopopolo said:
It does show time and time again if you want a bike that is relatively trouble free and "tested" wait 12 months after initial release.

While BMW have people pre-ordering and creating a demand then of course they will release bikes that may be not be as good in terms of quality control as they should.

Best to have market presence and cash in the bank and deal with warranty/quality issues later. While sales keep improving year on year.....

Has anyone wondered why BMW provide 3 years warranty from new and 2 years on used bikes? Is it because they have faith in the product or with all the noise about initial issues with 1200GS LC they wanted consumers to have confidence to purchase the shift cam...

If i was in the market for a shift cam I would wait at least 18 months for any issues to surface and be sorted.
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What a load of rubbish. How about the exhaust flap on the LC which fail on bikes right unto 2017 until they changed the design, that was hardly a new release bike, being in production since 2014. What about the fuel strips that fail regularly. In both these cases, waiting 18 months wouldn't have made any difference at all. As for warranty, there is 3 years on all BMW models not just the GS and RTs, so what does that have to do with shift cam?
 
casbar said:
What a load of rubbish. How about the exhaust flap on the LC which fail on bikes right unto 2017 until they changed the design, that was hardly a new release bike, being in production since 2014. What about the fuel strips that fail regularly. In both these cases, waiting 18 months wouldn't have made any difference at all. As for warranty, there is 3 years on all BMW models not just the GS and RTs, so what does that have to do with shift cam?
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Nothing that a bit of Anti Seize Nikel could not fix, done mine from new, not a squeak of a mouse......;)
 
andyscott said:
Who gives a toss, offence is taken not given. Nothing happens if you are offended, you dont suddenly become ill.
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Well, I happen to think that having a civilised discussion should involve giving a toss, as you put it, about whether others may take offence at what you say. However I should know better than to expect that view to get any sympathy on here! Sorry to have caused you the inconvenience of having to put me right on that.
 
Smogbob said:
Nothing that a bit of Anti Seize Nikel could not fix, done mine from new, not a squeak of a mouse......;)
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Think we have been down this road before, luck plays more of a part. Mr BMW lubed mine the second time when it started to squeak and then it failed. The tech told me, lubing has not real impact as its the way the flap pin is mounted in the pipes. They have now changed the design so hopefully no more stuck flaps.
 
This thread seems to be drifting off the point IMHO.

Leaks from any braking system are simply unacceptable. What is there to debate?

Just ask your insurer whether they will continue to cover your bike with brake fluid weeping from a caliper - probably best you don't, as they will withdraw/reduce cover immediately.

BMW need to sort this pdq & instruct a recall of the bikes fitted with the affected batch of Hayes calipers. I wonder what the reaction is in the US, if their production has the same issue - has anyone heard?

BTW, I am familiar with the excellent Harrison Billet calipers, historically an essential HD upgrade if you wanted to stop promptly, but not Harris .......... http://www.billet.co.uk/index2.html?home.html~mainFrame
 
casbar said:
Think we have been down this road before, luck plays more of a part. Mr BMW lubed mine the second time when it started to squeak and then it failed. The tech told me, lubing has not real impact as its the way the flap pin is mounted in the pipes. They have now changed the design so hopefully no more stuck flaps.
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Must have overlooked that part of the thread, very handy to know....:beerjug:
 
malcopopolo said:
I agree you would think BMW would ensure greater quality control.


PS i purposely only quoted the first line of your opinion as it appears you are incapable of reading someone else's and understand a differing opinion is:D
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yep, sorry I'm obviously a thick twat, I should have waited 12 months after your post then everything would be cool.
 
Why do posts need to get highjacked by insults? any chance of spreading the love and getting back to the issue in a civilised manner?


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I will be retro fitting the Brembro calipers back onto my 1250 as the new brakes do not have the same feel as the old system , not that they are bad its just the feel is not there.
I have a set ready to go on , second hand but off a 6000 mile bike.
Just need a rear one now as the rear is gold :barf
 
stick said:
I will be retro fitting the Brembro calipers back onto my 1250 as the new brakes do not have the same feel as the old system , not that they are bad its just the feel is not there.
I have a set ready to go on , second hand but off a 6000 mile bike.
Just need a rear one now as the rear is gold :barf
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When I commented on the Brembos here, I got lynched. I knew I was right. :D
 
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