Dodgy switchgear

Problem with BMW switchgear - It can't be true!

No, No No,

Their isn't a problem with the BMW switchgear, BMW told me so.

I have imagined waiting four weeks when mine failed.

It must have been a dream.

Good luck
 
Switchgear problem

I posted on this a few weeks ago under "Help!" Mine functioned intermittently i.e every time I went to the dealer it worked fine!At first they thought it was the fuse under the seat but it wasn't and then they agreed to change the whole switchgear - but it is recognised as a known problem they said. For the further tragedy that unfolded please see the concurrently running thread "Destroyed LC - New GSA?"!
By the way Barnstormer Alton had the part in stock when mine went.
 
I have had a couple of issues with the switch gear, in particularl the heated grip button would stick in the down position and refuse to 'pop' up after being pressed. Switch cluster was replace and is now ok.

At first I thought the problem was caused by the plastic button 'jamming' against the cluster moulding, but it appears to be the internal switch element is failing mechanically in some way.

I would loved to have dismantled the unit and investigated but the faulty unit was whisked back to Germany for inspection.
 
Problem with BMW switchgear - It can't be true!
No, No No,

Their isn't a problem with the BMW switchgear, BMW told me so.

I have imagined waiting four weeks when mine failed.

It must have been a dream.

Good luck
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Having just had mine replaced, as it fell apart, who, exactly, is denying it??

Its crap, it broke, BMW replaced it straight away with a better item, under warranty.

End of discussion :nenau
 
BMW Customer service in the UK are saying it is not a common fault.

You obviously have better customer service in Monaco, than we have to put up with in the UK.
 
woodman said:
BMW Customer service in the UK are saying it is not a common fault.

You obviously have better customer service in Monaco, than we have to put up with in the UK.
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My dealer (Bahnstormer Alton) recognised it as a common fault and had the part in stock.
 
As promised, herewith the final update (I hope!) Blessings to the new dealers I had to use (The old supplying dealers had moved too far away!)! Not sure I'm allowed names, but the dealer I'm now using is in Tunbridge Wells.

I gave the bike in on Friday and it was ready to be picked up by Wednesday last week. According to the report by the technician (Nice lad): A corroded pin at the end of the wire( he had followed out and cleaned? Couldn't see anything when I had done it though!) and a switch that needed replacement. Also, apparently the left hand switch gear was still full of water when opened up? That is the report. Thankfully everything seems to be working again, so no questions asked! But it looks like all the original switchgear to be honest!! Only thing I haven't tried is the speed control button. Fingers crossed, that will now also be working again. And of course I have to still try out the rolling switch/ selector for the Sat Nav. But one thing at a time!

Just wondering if I need to avoid heavy showers form now on. Fortunately the Triumph Tiger 800 XC seems to running faultlessly!
 
Ducati 1970 vintage

In the 1970's when buying a new Ducati the first you would do is pump the switches with silicon grease !!!

Sorry but this is just not acceptable, ok so BMW fix the problem under warranty what about long term ownership, this does not improve their reliability reputation which has taken a battering over the last few years.
 
My understanding is that BMW have been trying to solve the switch issue for some time and keep making changes to the design - hopefully this latest change has solved the problem, not every one has a problem with the switches so I wonder if it is water ingress that is the cause. I wonder if the dry weather only riders have a problem or those that hardly ever wash the bike - my bike gets a pretty good wash once a week whatever the weather.
 
Engineer said:
My understanding is that BMW have been trying to solve the switch issue for some time and keep making changes to the design - hopefully this latest change has solved the problem, not every one has a problem with the switches so I wonder if it is water ingress that is the cause. I wonder if the dry weather only riders have a problem or those that hardly ever wash the bike - my bike gets a pretty good wash once a week whatever the weather.
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As a serial bike washer, mine has probably been washed every couple of weeks since I bought it, as well as being ridden through torrential downpours. No switch issues on mine, even though I had mine replaced recently as a precaution, however, I always dry the bike thoroughly after washing, or riding in wet conditions. I've heard that these bikes are made out of cheese, so have to look after it.:D
 
I have never washed mine it was covered in French flies,mud etc. switched gear worked perfectly. Took the bike for the 6000mile service, complementary wash and polish now the switch gear sticking.
 
Engineer said:
My understanding is that BMW have been trying to solve the switch issue for some time and keep making changes to the design - hopefully this latest change has solved the problem, not every one has a problem with the switches so I wonder if it is water ingress that is the cause. I wonder if the dry weather only riders have a problem or those that hardly ever wash the bike - my bike gets a pretty good wash once a week whatever the weather.
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I think the fact that there is a large hole where the cable goes into the switchgear can't help. All other bmw's seem to have much better ingress protection
 
I've had no issues with switchgear but my understanding is, BMW used a method of printed tracks (seed layers which are then plated up) in the cases so the case was in fact the base layer for the PCB (I've worked in this area and it's not as mad as it seems). However they did not put down enough material to account for thermal cycling and as such the tracks break. This has been reported and images are on either the Adventure Rider or R1200gs.info sites. (Can't remember where I saw it).

As far as I can tell BM have given up on this (I'm sure I'll get corrected if, any one know's better than me), and moved back to flexi circuits.

The micro switches may still fail but the reliability should be better.

I keep meaning to check mine, may be at the week end. ....

I also note on the R1200gs.info site, some poor chap has had his rear calliper go up in flames...
 
jonnyp said:
I also note on the R1200gs.info site, some poor chap has had his rear calliper go up in flames...
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Oh, this is going to be really great.

Probably explains the mini fire extinguisher attached to the new WC GSA, too...

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