Hi Pat, what do you mean when you say you had the final drive 5 times (24, 30, 45, 62 & 72).....
Can you be more specific, I mean what did you change all these times?
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Hi Pat, what do you mean when you say you had the final drive 5 times (24, 30, 45, 62 & 72).....
Can you be more specific, I mean what did you change all these times?
Pat, from what I know usually problems are solved after a qualified repair by a BMW workshop, sometimes one follow up is needed. 5 times would be embarrassing. This number fully qualifies in Germany for a 1 : 1 exchange with a new product.
PatM
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Hi Dr KC.
The works were all covered under the warranty- that Ive religiously renewed each year since Ive had the bike- I didn't think they would still cover my bike due to the age and mileage last time- as its coming up for its 5th birthday.
The first one was a complete replacement with a new final drive unit
the 2nd and 3rd were rebuilds by SLM of Caterham- where I brought the bike brand new- it was at this time that the gearbox was replaced- then a week of so later, as the gearbox was found to be leaking!
the 4th was replaced by Coopers of Tunbridge- Wells- that was a re-build FD.
The most recent one- so that means 5, not four- was a brand new FD- I had to wait a week for it to come from Germany (no spares, I suppose- as BMW don't expect fools like me to ride this time of year
)So, if I'm correct- this one will be a seal replacement- unless they do a failure under warranty of the part- as Ive only done 3k on it.
The bikes nearly coming up to 75k miles now.
I don't wheelie it, I don't thrash it- but I do 50/50 motorway miles versus heavy traffic miles- so I'm wondering if the constant clutch-snatching is killing it.
For what its worth- my bike does not look like its covered this sort of mileage, as I look after it, clean it each week. Its got minor corrosion on some of the casings- Ive had the timing-chest cover replaced under warranty last year- cos I moaned!
Ive had the ignition switch go- at 68k
Ive had 2 sets of stick-coils go
So all in all- its been a good soldier for its 5 years of daily-use
Ive given as much history detail as possible- as my tale seems implausible.
Rgds
PatM
Gabby
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On a 2006 GSA I had 4 FD's !!!!!
One at 25,0000
One at 43,000
One at 63,000
And the forth one is still on it (I think as I sold the bike) with 97,000 on the clock and a recipt for it given to the new owner.
All replaced by BMW at their expence with the last two well out of warranty so thumbs up to them (Oxford BMW).
Own a 2009 GSA now and no FD failures yet.
One at 25,0000
One at 43,000
One at 63,000
And the forth one is still on it (I think as I sold the bike) with 97,000 on the clock and a recipt for it given to the new owner.
All replaced by BMW at their expence with the last two well out of warranty so thumbs up to them (Oxford BMW).
Own a 2009 GSA now and no FD failures yet.
My original unit bearings failed and replaced at 42k, replaced with secondhand from Motorworks, which started to leak at 43k.
Just fitting my third unit tonight.
Just fitting my third unit tonight.
This looks like it's part of the rear plate on the back of the casing, is this retro - fittable to an older drive unit?
Can you fill the unit through here as opposed to the ABS sensor hole?
Can you fill the unit through here as opposed to the ABS sensor hole?
gipsymagpie
Registered user
My first - finally
I have finally got round to the last common R12GS failure that I hadn't had yet. The FD was replaced today by NOG BMW under the extended warranty. The first of many? Let's just review what has gone so far:
Speedo failure
Oil leak onto the clutch
Another clutch failure
Front engine cover corrosion
Fuel pump relay failure
Rear drive seal failure
Rear wheel carrier cracking
Rear frame cracking
Headlight unit adjuster failure (twice)
Right side exhaust valve dropped into cylinder
Rear disc chewed up in 2000 miles flat
The only one missing: EWS failure (I have the spare)
Did I miss one?
I have finally got round to the last common R12GS failure that I hadn't had yet. The FD was replaced today by NOG BMW under the extended warranty. The first of many? Let's just review what has gone so far:
Speedo failure
Oil leak onto the clutch
Another clutch failure
Front engine cover corrosion
Fuel pump relay failure
Rear drive seal failure
Rear wheel carrier cracking
Rear frame cracking
Headlight unit adjuster failure (twice)
Right side exhaust valve dropped into cylinder
Rear disc chewed up in 2000 miles flat
The only one missing: EWS failure (I have the spare)
Did I miss one?
PatM
Registered user
You didnt say what mileage you had covered? Ive ahd most of that except rear wheel and frame- Ive done 76k on an 06
PatM
gipsymagpie
Registered user
Missed a few!I have finally got round to the last common R12GS failure that I hadn't had yet. The FD was replaced today by NOG BMW under the extended warranty. The first of many? Let's just review what has gone so far:
Bike is 54 reg UK spec with 36000 miles on the clock.
Speedo failure
Oil leak onto the clutch
Another clutch failure
Front engine cover corrosion
Fuel pump relay failure
Rear drive seal failure
Rear wheel carrier cracking
Rear frame cracking
Headlight unit adjuster failure (twice)
Right side exhaust valve dropped into cylinder
Rear disc chewed up in 2000 miles flat
+
Throttle jamming when heated grips on
Battery premature death
The only one missing: EWS failure (I have the spare)
Did I miss one? - Still love it
PatM
Registered user
Yes, You did miss one- Clutch leaver jamming on hand-guards! alathough BMW solved it by issuing a couple of skickers for you to put inside the guards...
36k?:- sunday rider!
Achim
Registered user
Brake line recall
You also missed the brake line recall. My bike was booked in to get the recall done, but the brake line didn't last that long and spewed brake fluid all over the bike (during my IAM test, no less).
Passed the test anyway...
Achim
You also missed the brake line recall. My bike was booked in to get the recall done, but the brake line didn't last that long and spewed brake fluid all over the bike (during my IAM test, no less).
Passed the test anyway
...Achim
gipsymagpie
Registered user
When cheeky sod subscribe to forum, abuse give can he. Actually I ride every day and I didn't get the brake/handguard one cos I check each time I ride.
An' me!
Had an annual service at Cotswold today. "Sir - did you know your rear final drive bearing is fecked?! We can't MOT it without doing the work"
New one fitted whilst I waited fully funded by Bracknell.
2008 GSA with 14,600 miles on the clock.
Felt much better riding home!
Had an annual service at Cotswold today. "Sir - did you know your rear final drive bearing is fecked?! We can't MOT it without doing the work"
New one fitted whilst I waited fully funded by Bracknell.
2008 GSA with 14,600 miles on the clock.
Felt much better riding home!
Another seal just gone.
1st unit bearings failed at 42k, unit scrapped, unrepairable.
2nd unit, LHS inner seal failked at 43k, unit exchanged under warranty from Motorworks.
3rd unit, the RHS outer seal on my at 44k.
Getting a bit cheesed off now.
1st unit bearings failed at 42k, unit scrapped, unrepairable.
2nd unit, LHS inner seal failked at 43k, unit exchanged under warranty from Motorworks.
3rd unit, the RHS outer seal on my at 44k.
Getting a bit cheesed off now.
on FD 4 and think its on its way out bikes done 39000miles last fd has done 3000 ish miles all covered on extended warranty on rear shock no3 and its gone too last one done on good will but dont know whether this one will be covered but its only done about 4000ish
Arrow
Registered user
Had 1st FD bearing replacement at 19,500 with the bike 51 weeks old and advised that BMW had replaced the bearing with a new up rated version.
New up rated version just replaced at 29,000 with the bike 18.5 months old i.e. 10,000m and 5.5 months less than the OEM and so called inferior replaced bearing.
Is this what's known as reverse engineering?
New up rated version just replaced at 29,000 with the bike 18.5 months old i.e. 10,000m and 5.5 months less than the OEM and so called inferior replaced bearing.
Is this what's known as reverse engineering?
KEV7801
Registered user
FINAL DRIVE FAILURE
1200 GSA
REGISTERED OCTOBER 2009
2600 MILES
1200 GSA
REGISTERED OCTOBER 2009
2600 MILES
Bigfoot MkII
Registered user
mine has just had rear shock number 3,on its third battery,1 rear wheel,1front engine cover 4 fuel sensors.and front brake mods in 20,000 miles.if any more goes tits up its going.
Took my 2007 GSA (26000 miles) in for a service at NOG on Friday.
Was given the bad news that my final drive had BIG problems, but not the 'usual' failure. They were unable to get the rear part of the drive disconnected.
They contacted BMW as I have the extended warranty and they agreed the claim immediately (£1500)...............the best £33 a month over the last 18months or so I have ever spent.
Picking it up next Saturday.
p.s...................Thanks NOG for your efforts and service (Chris)
Ian
Was given the bad news that my final drive had BIG problems, but not the 'usual' failure. They were unable to get the rear part of the drive disconnected.
They contacted BMW as I have the extended warranty and they agreed the claim immediately (£1500)...............the best £33 a month over the last 18months or so I have ever spent.
Picking it up next Saturday.
p.s...................Thanks NOG for your efforts and service (Chris)
Ian
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