First Bike on Scene - first aid course.

[Wicker]

Just done a FBOS course organised by a local bike club, the Scottish Motorcycle Club. Lots of useful information with time to practice helmet removal, CPR and other basic first aid techniques. Glad I took the course but hope I never need to use the knowledge.

Teaching basic first aid at secondary school should be made compulsory as you are likely to come across some form of first aid incident at some point even if you never leave the house!

The trainer (Derek McNaught) is based in Edinburgh and delivered the course in Linlithgow for a very reasonable £20 per head (we had 15 club members attend). I can provide details contact if any other clubs are possibly interested in arranging a similar course in east central Scotland.

 

[Uinneag]

Did they tell you if any injury sustained by the casualty, you could be blamed and sued.
Remember your in a Anglo American state

This warning was given to me by an air ambulance paramedic that there is no such thing as a good samaratain because even the air amabulance get sued if they don't save a life or chip a finger nail

 

[Posh Pete]

Teaching basic first aid at secondary school should be made compulsory as you are likely to come across some form of first aid incident at some point even if you never leave the house!

Trust me. There are some kids I would be fighting off with my last breath before I let them perform CPR on me.

Speaking of which, one of the kids at my school stabbed a teacher last week.

Calm down. Only a bizarre accident in the Home Ec department. One of the kids in the class later commented to me ...

"Ye ken whit Mr S? She never even swore!"

 

[Wicker]

I would never claim that 5 hours attendance on the FBOS course fully equips you to take effective first aid action in all cases, or that I am about to intercede in any incident I may come across, however it does provide some basic tips which may stop a friend or a loved one from dying. In such cases I like to think I would have the presence of mind to at least try and help (if it is required) to keep the patient comfortable until an ambulance arrived.

I also recall a couple of police support staff in England being recently criticised for not entering the water and trying to save a drowning child. You can be criticised and threatened with lawsuits for just about anything these days however sometimes you do need to act, and deal with the consequences (good or bad) thereafter.

In reality, and despite the ravings of the UK populist press, very few threats of litgation go forward to actual court action and fewer again lead to a successful claim. The UK courts do still recognise the good samaritan principle and are likely to look unfavourably upon a lawsuit against an individual who had saved your life.

Ooyackisatan and the more scenic parts Scotland tend to be a distance from an A&E. Personally, I would rather try to help than regret not doing so.

 

[skyenet]

Glad I took the course but hope I never need to use the knowledge.

Within five minutes of passing a first aid course

http://www.redcross.org.uk/standard.asp?id=45801

Will never forget the wee lad looking up at me and with tears rolling down his face asking me if he was going to die.

more scenic parts Scotland tend to be a distance from an A&E. Personally, I would rather try to help than regret not doing so

Was out with my mate on a quiet country road when me misjudged a corner and ended up crashing and fracturing his collar bone. First Aid course was invaluable then and it was ages before an Ambulance arrived. Luckily I managed to get a signal on my phone.

Many, many years ago while working for Securicor I came across another accident on a deserted country road near Tranent. It was a mechanic who had taken a customer's car out to test it and had gone flying through a fence into the middle of a field. There was nothing I could do for the poor guy. It had only happened a few minutes before. At least I had good communications stuff in the truck and got hold of the emergency services (well before mobile phones).

Quiet agree that it should be taught in School and personally I think it should be part of the driving test.

 

[Uinneag]

Maybe some day someone will spell Oonyackistan correctly I'm sounding like Schtum

Not meaning to put a downer on your day on the first aid. The consequence of your actions whether good intentions or bad could be implicated in the cause of injury to the patient be your fault or not.
If I came across someone with thier helmet causing asphixiation I would remove it rather than them suphocating to death even in the case that the brain was being held in with the helmet, that I wouldn't know until removal. But thats me

I am ex fire brigade and was trained in first aid but was warned not to carry it out

Been hurt or injured in an accident call 0800 blah blah

I would try and help and would be prepared for the consequences of my actions but when the trainers advise stay clear

 

[AndyT]

I must admit I want to book myself on a first aid course through work, (Its a 5 day one).

I was traveling home today after a rideout and whilst going through Stonehaven I noticed a chap stood by the side of the road near a couple of cars with his arms folded looking "out of place". I then noticed lying at his feet was a boy of about 10 I guess who I imagine he had knocked over in his car. The boy looked spark out - no sign of movement and lying as he fell. There was a steady stream of traffic and although I never stopped I couldn't stop thinking if I should go back - but if I did what could I do. The journey home from there my mind was spinning with should I turn back or shouldn't I. There were loads of people in the area so I would just be a hinderance but what if the guy had just froze and not even called an ambulance. It was down to about 2 or 3 degC and I thought the lad must be freezing but someone must get a duvet or something until the ambulance arrived.

Anyway when I got to the other end of the Slug road from Stonehaven which is about 12 miles long the Ambulance passes me going to see this lad

He would probably die of exposure if it took that long.

Had I have done a first aid course I am 100% confident I would have stopped to give assistance. I know what HRH is saying about Law suits etc but it could be my son that needs the first aid too

I feel a course coming on

AndyT

 

[skyenet]

Anyway when I got to the other end of the Slug road from Stonehaven :

My dad died at the scene of his accident near Stonehaven back in 1966. I believe that due to his injuries, no first aider would have been able to help him but will never know the truth.