GSA Shaft replacement...??

[bikerider007]

the last owner of my bike(i must have jet washed it or some thing puntured the front seal between gearbox and swing arm and let in loads of water that has sat there for ages and now is very rusty and corroded. i do have a pic of this will post it when i get home.any how the dealer gave me two options 1.just spend £180 to get seal replaced and shaft cleaned up as best without removing it as the water only sat at the bottom end
2. spend £500 pounds and replace (shaft £300) and seal
3. My Idea i get used shaft from Motorworks £145 and seal£10 and i do the work
now how hard is it to do i.e special tools? other seal/s?
what will i need guys ?i have only had the bike a week
guess i should have gone to specsavers
the bike has had a full service today 10000mls)(last service 5000 miles, this is why i know this sad story though the dealer did say every else was good (yippe)
thanks in advance for any help

 

[brassmonkey001]

It's a complicated job
and no-one understands it but Steptoe...

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

I'm sure threre's a shaft on eBay at the mo

Andres

 

[MOTOTECH]

It's a complicated job
and no-one understands it but Steptoe...

Pardon?

 

[brassmonkey001]

Pardon?

Who's the cat who won't cop out
when there's Beemers all about...

 

[iftikartaxis]

have a go

buy a haynes manual and have a go yourself
take your time plenty oil grease and cups of tea

"Praise the lord and pass the Ammunition"

 

[rockchunk]

Who's the cat who won't cop out
when there's Beemers all about...

they say that shaft is a bad mother .................

yes get yerself a isaac hayes manual

 

[Kremmen]

If you have a degree of mechanical knowledge, methodical in your approach it isn't that difficult a job....

If you don't it would be like asking me to carry out a frontal lobotomy in a lay-by with the std. BM toolkit.

Regards

 

[GrinningGSer]

Someone here, I think it was Steptoe, said that the shafts never fail.
If I were you, I'd just ignore it. My shaft was rusty after only a few miles and never offroad. I posted a pic here a long time ago. Just make sure that the joints and splines are well greased with Moly 90 and enjoy the ride.

 

[cookie]

Someone here, I think it was Steptoe, said that the shafts never fail.
If I were you, I'd just ignore it. My shaft was rusty after only a few miles and never offroad. I posted a pic here a long time ago. Just make sure that the joints and splines are well greased with Moly 90 and enjoy the ride.

indeed.

i'd take it out and check the joints/splines/etc. before committing to buy a new one.

 

[bikerider007]

Someone here, I think it was Steptoe, said that the shafts never fail.
If I were you, I'd just ignore it. My shaft was rusty after only a few miles and never offroad. I posted a pic here a long time ago. Just make sure that the joints and splines are well greased with Moly 90 and enjoy the ride.

Yeah just saw your photos urm mine's a little more rusty than that

 

[Kremmen]

Yeah ..... but only a tad more

 

[GrinningGSer]

This was mine after only 3000 miles

The bottom joint is now well greased and very quickly turns a rusty brown, presumably with rust dust within the casing.

I have no idea what is at the top end !

 

[chad]

Yeah just saw your photos urm mine's a little more rusty than that

is there any play in the uj if not

give it a damn good clean and lube up then just run it you will be supprised at the durability

 

[Kremmen]

Looking at the amount of ferrous oxide deposits on these cardon shafts and the statement that the grease turns brown, i see a potential wear issue..

The grease being applied to the splines and surroundings will over a period attract the rust, this will over time act like a subtle grinding medium..

If possible i would certainly remove as must of the rust as possible before treating the surface with a rust inhibitor.

Regards

 

[bikerider007]

thanks guys, i will get my wire brush out scrub the cr*p out of it and soak it in some diesel. then grease it.when i get the guts to sort it. just ordered the haynes manual.
:silly question: now will i have to take the shaft out to change the front seal

 

[Steptoe]

I've had a broken 1200 shaft due to water ingress - Ingress, i like that word almost as much as flange.

Anyway to replace the shaft just drop down the final drive, remove shaft, re-insert new shaft.
To line up the front splines just pop back the front gaiter and use a lever to pop it onto the output shaft, then pop the gaiter back in place.
Replace rear gaiter ( if it's split) before swinging the final drive back up into place.

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[chad]

I've had a broken 1200 shaft due to water ingress - Ingress, i like that word almost as much as flange.

Anyway to replace the shaft just drop down the final drive, remove shaft, re-insert new shaft.
To line up the front splines just pop back the front gaiter and use a lever to pop it onto the output shaft, then pop the gaiter back in place.
Replace rear gaiter ( if it's split) before swinging the final drive back up into place.

.

hehehe you said flange

 

[bikerider007]

almost there

There was no play in the Ujoint at all thank god

Looking lots better, cheers steptoe

Ordered the front gaiter today so this doesnt happen again

 

[Kremmen]

Never mind flanges.... for me it has to be gussets....