I dunno... How about Toronto?

2nd June 2025

As is normal before a foreign trip, my sleep isn’t great - Harry isn’t the only one who reacts to change :D
Alexa wakes me at 06:15 and I get up, ablute, then dress and go downstairs. I put my towel in the washer/ dryer and switch it on, go and retrieve my lightweight fleece from the garage, then put the bins at the top of the drive and text Chris and Taylor next door to ask if they’d be kind enough to put each out on the relevant day, and re-stow them for me.

Adrian arrives at exactly 07:00 (rather worryingly) and we pack my three pieces of luggage in the boot of his car. We’re soon headed down towards Thetford on a glorious sunny morning - and Adrian’s satnav is telling us we should arrive by just after 10:00. My flight isn’t scheduled to depart until 13:20, but I always like to leave a three-hour margin, for contingencies and the dreaded security checks.

Once we reach Mildenhall, the ETA is still looking good, so we make a pit stop for a bacon roll and a coffee.

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Ultimately, we get to the M25, which is always the great unknown - today it’s pretty good...

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I actually remember saying to Adrian "I'll get some B Roll pics". What a twat...
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We continue to arc around the north of London heading for Terminal Five. Suddenly, at just gone 10:00, we are here…

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I thank Adrian, grab a luggage trolley and load my bags onto it. Adrian pulls away to put himself at the mercy of the M25, as he drives the reciprocal route home.

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The terminal, for once, is relatively quiet, and I’m soon having my passport checked and watching my luggage disappear (who knows - perhaps forever) into the maw of the baggage handling apparatus.

I make my way to security, which is as quiet as I’ve ever seen it, and obey the (new) rules. Despite signs saying the opposite, I’m told not to pull my laptop and iPad out, not to remove my watch or shoes. I’m through in no time at all.

The duty-free area is the usual mosh pit...

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Patrolled by daleks disguised as robot cleaners...

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My flight is leaving from Gate B38, which involves going down a couple of floors and catching a transit train which takes us under the taxiways before we emerge at the sub-terminal.

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I position myself on a surprisingly comfortable seat, near the loos and the drinking fountains, where I fill my water bottle, and log on to the free WIFI.
I am surprised and pleased to see a text from Nick saying that the garage door is fixed! Apparently, it was the safety brake out of alignment (you’ve likely got the same puzzled look on your face that I had when I read that). I pay the £67 invoice - and thank Nick for his help - great start to the trip :-)

Soon we’re boarding, which goes smoothly except for people *really* taking the piss with cabin baggage. The couple in front of me each had a wheeled case, a large bag each, coats and they were both wearing rucksacks. They spent ages trying to find somewhere to put it all. I kept the suggestions I had to myself…
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The aircraft is completely rammed - apparently oversold by 10 seats. I have an aisle seat, and the unfortunate passenger next to me - Daniel - is quite happy, because he’s a BA Cabin Staff on a standby seat.

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We’re airborne about ten minutes late, our push back and start time was delayed, but we then get airborne and into the cruise. I eventually get the inflight WIFI to work, have some pretzels and apple juice and order Chicken with Gnocchi for my inflight meal…

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Very tasty (still not a patch on yours Jane :D). I decide to buy four hours of full internet access for £11.99, mostly so I can buy an eSIM for Canada, as my Three account won’t work there (as it will in Gilead, to the south).

After a comedy of errors trying to pay online, I eventually achieve connection. I go to the App Store to download Airolo, which Martin (Arsey) introduced me to a couple of years back. The connection is slow. I mean S L O W…
I open the Airolo page and it’s saying it will take eleven HOURS and 54 minutes to download…

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I ask the very helpful cabin staff about it, and she tells me I can apply for a refund. I click on the refund button and it takes 20 minutes to timeout
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Entertainment is ok, but just ok. I treat myself to watching Alien - if not my favourite movie, then in the top three. What a great film - unbelievable how long ago it was made - there isn’t a wasted minute in it.

I watch three episodes of Lionesses, which is bollocks, but entertains nonetheless. I’m about half an hour into the first episode of Yellowstone, when I got presented with a glass of fizz from the Captain, Ian, with his apologies for not being able to upgrade me. What a nice gesture, set in motion by my BA benefactor…
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At around 19:00 (BST), they look like they’re threatening us with some more cabin service…

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...which manifests itself in the form of a cosmetically unappealing, but very tasty cheese and onion tuurnover...
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I finish the (90minute) pilot episode of Yellowstone. I think I may be watching more of this when I get home

At length, we start the descent into Toronto. I sort out all the paperwork I've printed for the hire car and join the throng of people leaving the aircraft. The cabin staff have been run ragged with a jam-packed jet, so I make sure and thank them as I leave.

We walk to Ontario (or that's what it feels like) before going through a simple immigration procedure - a bit like entering the USA (well, in the old days). Eventually I rescue my bag from the carousel, and push my trolley to the car park (via a couple of lifts and a subway). I present my docs and Theo, the excellent operative says, "We've got a choice of colours - which would you like?"

Silly question...
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Go big or go home...

I try for something like 20 minutes to get the fucking thing to link to my phone by Bluetooth, before giving up and rifled through my bags and found a cable to plug it into the dash with.

Like a fucking savage...
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I very unwisely decide to put the hood down and drive straight to my hotel (about an hour and a bit away). I say unwisely, because it is gone midnight, body-clock time. I didn't really rest on the plane, because I tend to put Economy seats on, rather than sit on them. I'm undercaffeinated, my blood sugar is likely low and having the hood down just provides a degree of sensory overload.

With the finely honed skills of an advanced driver, and after years of experience as a risk manager, it only takes missing three junctions before I come to my senses, stop, and put the lid up. Unfortunately, the junctions I missed and Waze recalculated my route onto, appears to be a toll road. To my knowledge, there's no transponder in the car - it wasn't mentioned at pick-up. I have a sneaking suspicion this will come back to haunt me...

Sorry - too tired - more later...
 
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2nd June 2025

As is normal before a foreign trip, my sleep isn’t great - Harry isn’t the only one who reacts to change :D
Alexa wakes me at 06:15 and I get up, ablute, then dress and go downstairs. I put my towel in the washer/ dryer and switch it on, go and retrieve my lightweight fleece from the garage, then put the bins at the top of the drive and text Chris and Taylor next door to ask if they’d be kind enough to put each out on the relevant day, and re-stow them for me.

Adrian arrives at exactly 07:00 (rather worryingly) and we pack my three pieces of luggage in the boot of his car. We’re soon headed down towards Thetford on a glorious sunny morning - and Adrian’s satnav is telling us we should arrive by just after 10:00. My flight isn’t scheduled to depart until 13:20, but I always like to leave a three-hour margin, for contingencies and the dreaded security checks.

Once we reach Mildenhall, the ETA is still looking good, so we make a pit stop for a bacon roll and a coffee.

IMG_4088-1-X4.jpg


Ultimately, we get to the M25, which is always the great unknown - today it’s pretty good...

IMG_4089-X4.jpg


I actually remember saying to Adrian "I'll get some B Roll pics". What a twat...
lol8.gif


We continue to arc around the north of London heading for Terminal Five. Suddenly, at just gone 10:00, we are here…

IMG_4090-X4.jpg


I thank Adrian, grab a luggage trolley and load my bags onto it. Adrian pulls away to put himself at the mercy of the M25, as he drives the reciprocal route home.

IMG_4091-X4.jpg


The terminal, for once, is relatively quiet, and I’m soon having my passport checked and watching my luggage disappear (who knows - perhaps forever) into the maw of the baggage handling apparatus.

I make my way to security, which is as quiet as I’ve ever seen it, and obey the (new) rules. Despite signs saying the opposite, I’m told not to pull my laptop and iPad out, not to remove my watch or shoes. I’m through in no time at all.

The duty-free area is the usual mosh pit...

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Patrolled by daleks disguised as robot cleaners...

IMG_4097-X4.jpg


My flight is leaving from Gate B38, which involves going down a couple of floors and catching a transit train which takes us under the taxiways before we emerge at the sub-terminal.

IMG_4101-X4.jpg


I position myself on a surprisingly comfortable seat, near the loos and the drinking fountains, where I fill my water bottle, and log on to the free WIFI.
I am surprised and pleased to see a text from Nick saying that the garage door is fixed! Apparently, it was the safety brake out of alignment (you’ve likely got the same puzzled look on your face that I had when I read that). I pay the £67 invoice - and thank Nick for his help - great start to the trip :-)

Soon we’re boarding, which goes smoothly except for people *really* taking the piss with cabin baggage. The couple in front of me each had a wheeled case, a large bag each, coats and they were both wearing rucksacks. They spent ages trying to find somewhere to put it all. I kept the suggestions I had to myself…
bluduh.gif


The aircraft is completely rammed - apparently oversold by 10 seats. I have an aisle seat, and the unfortunate passenger next to me - Daniel - is quite happy, because he’s a BA Cabin Staff on a standby seat.

IMG_4104-X4.jpg


We’re airborne about ten minutes late, our push back and start time was delayed, but we then get airborne and into the cruise. I eventually get the inflight WIFI to work, have some pretzels and apple juice and order Chicken with Gnocchi for my inflight meal…

IMG_4106-X4.jpg


Very tasty (still not a patch on yours Jane :D). I decide to buy four hours of full internet access for £11.99, mostly so I can buy an eSIM for Canada, as my Three account won’t work there (as it will in Gilead, to the south).

After a comedy of errors trying to pay online, I eventually achieve connection. I go to the App Store to download Airolo, which Martin (Arsey) introduced me to a couple of years back. The connection is slow. I mean S L O W…
I open the Airolo page and it’s saying it will take eleven HOURS and 54 minutes to download…

IMG_1356.png


I ask the very helpful cabin staff about it, and she tells me I can apply for a refund. I click on the refund button and it takes 20 minutes to timeout
fpalm.gif


Entertainment is ok, but just ok. I treat myself to watching Alien - if not my favourite movie, then in the top three. What a great film - unbelievable how long ago it was made - there isn’t a wasted minute in it.

I watch three episodes of Lionesses, which is bollocks, but entertains nonetheless. I’m about half an hour into the first episode of Yellowstone, when I got presented with a glass of fizz from the Captain, Ian, with his apologies for not being able to upgrade me. What a nice gesture, set in motion by my BA benefactor…
bowdown.gif

At around 19:00 (BST), they look like they’re threatening us with some more cabin service…

IMG_1355%202-X4.jpg


...which manifests itself in the form of a cosmetically unappealing, but very tasty cheese and onion tuurnover...
DukeGirl.gif


I finish the (90minute) pilot episode of Yellowstone. I think I may be watching more of this when I get home

At length, we start the descent into Toronto. I sort out all the paperwork I've printed for the hire car and join the throng of people leaving the aircraft. The cabin staff have been run ragged with a jam-packed jet, so I make sure and thank them as I leave.

We walk to Ontario (or that's what it feels like) before going through a simple immigration procedure - a bit like entering the USA (well, in the old days). Eventually I rescue my bag from the carousel, and push my trolley to the car park (via a couple of lifts and a subway). I present my docs and Theo, the excellent operative says, "We've got a choice of colours - which would you like?"

Silly question...
icon10.gif


IMG_4118-X4.jpg


Go big or go home...

I try for something like 20 minutes to get the fucking thing to link to my phone by Bluetooth, before giving up and rifled through my bags and found a cable to plug it into the dash with.

Like a fucking savage...
yelrotflmao.gif


I very unwisely decide to put the hood down and drive straight to my hotel (about an hour and a bit away). I say unwisely, because it is gone midnight, body-clock time. I didn't really rest on the plane, because I tend to put Economy seats on, rather than sit on them. I'm undercaffeinated, my blood sugar is likely low and having the hood down just provides a degree of sensory overload.

With the finely honed skills of an advanced driver, and after years of experience as a risk manager, it only takes missing three junctions before I come to my senses, stop, and put the lid up. Unfortunately, the junctions I missed and Waze recalculated my route onto, appears to be a toll road. To my knowledge, there's no transponder in the car - it wasn't mentioned at pick-up. I have a sneaking suspicion this will come back to haunt me...

Sorry - too tired - more later...
Nice car Mike. We hired one but just a bit plastacky inside otherwise enjoyed it.
 
no planters hopefully this time

greggs tho?

out of roadmaster convertibles? :D
 
With the finely honed skills of an advanced driver, and after years of experience as a risk manager, it only takes missing three junctions before I come to my senses, stop, and put the lid up. Unfortunately, the junctions I missed and Waze recalculated my route onto, appears to be a toll road. To my knowledge, there's no transponder in the car - it wasn't mentioned at pick-up. I have a sneaking suspicion this will come back to haunt me...

Sorry - too tired - more later...
I did that a few years back and eventually the invoice for the toll arrived from Hertz about 9 months later. It had had an interesting trip as Hertz had my address as being in GB and not UK and someone at Canada Post decided that GB was Guinea-Bissau....
 
2nd June 2025 - (cont)

I decide to stop and refuel - myself - and visit A&W, whose burgers I've always found top notch...

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The lovely Shweta (unfortunate name) brings me...

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...a delicious Teen Steakburger, with aioli and bacon JAM(!), with a mixed berry shake and a large Americano...
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Actually, the shake was a bit disappointing, so I left half of it...:(

Feeling rejuvenated (and able to string adjoining thoughts together at last) I get back on the QEW - the road to Niagara...

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First bridge pic of the trip...
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Very soon, I'm arriving at my hotel. I'm quickly checked in - $45 Can for parking
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and, stealing a baggage trolley, take all my stuff up to my room - on the thirteenth floor. I didn’t think hotels had thirteenth floors...
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Wow...

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This is the view from the window...

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...and from the Jacuzzi - which has a convenient mirror behind it. I bet some dodgy pics have been taken here...
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I'm not interested in a Jacuzzi, so have a shower that felt like a religious experience, then pad about the room setting things up. I upload all today's pics and write until I can't any more, then hit the (supremely comfortable) king-sized bed and go out like a light.

Great day.

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3rd June 2025

I sleep pretty well, but find myself mesmerised by the changing colours and distant roar of the backlit falls when I wake to ease springs, and have to remind myself to go back to sleep...

I get up at about 0900 and pack everything up, but in a more logical sense than for air travel. I'll bring all my luggage to the room every evening, but will only need to unpack one bag. I leave everything in the room and take the lift down to the lobby, commiserating with a chap on 13 who is cleaning up after his dog...
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Inez, the lovely receptionist, gives me a 1300 checkout - including my car parking and recommends the IHOP for breakfast...

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Surely the best IHOP location in the world...

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OK, their prices are hiked compared with IHOPS at sea level, but what a view...

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Ah, the breakfast sampler...
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That'll do the trick...

After paying $70 Can including a generous tip for breakfast
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, I head for my next tourist trap...

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...the Skylon Tower (wasn't that the name of Walter White's wife in Breaking Bad?
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I bought the ticket back in the UK - quite the rigmarole getting something to print out on their computer...

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It's a great view from the top...

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Canada has a way better view than Gilead...

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Here you can see one of the "Maid of the Mist" boats sailing into the base of the falls.

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To me, it's like deliberately running into a rain-shower...
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All the hotels here are of strange design. No-one wants to stay at Niagara and not have a falls view, so they mostly seem to be built with all the lifts, staircases and utilities on one side and all the rooms on the other...

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With epic planning, although I am staying in a room overlooking the falls tonight, it's not this one...
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I decided to stay a second night a couple of weeks after booking this room, and they had no availability for me to extend. This why I packed up this morning - I'm changing hotels this afternoon. I return to my beautiful, cool and superbly equipped room and catch up on my journal...

More later...
 
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Wow indeed....I had no idea the area around Niagara was so built up (never been, never had cause to google it etc)
No doubt another great trip report coming...cheers Mike
 
3rd June 2025 - (cont)

1300 arrives and I check out and take my luggage back to the car...

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...which is parked near this pick-up. Actually, I think it's closer to it than when I left - this thing has its own gravity well...
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His mate might be a redneck, there are signs...

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Apple Carplay - which has automatically connected by Bluetooth every time I have started the car after its fit of pique at the airport, directs me the 450 metres to my hotel for this evening...
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The Hilton is a very grand affair, when compared with last night's (still excellent) hotel. I'm swiftly checked in (even though I've turned up two hours early) and am given the key to my room on the 21st floor(!) in the North Tower. I decide to grab a cart and get my bags.

They are all locked up.

Dave...

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...says, "I'll get them for you sir" and follows me out to the car. He asks for my room number and I give him $5Can - which he seems inordinately pleased with :-) I've got to 68 years old without anyone taking my bags to my room for me. I perhaps need to raise my sights on hotels...
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I leave Dave to his work, then park the car 'on site' - an underground garage across from the lobby. I swallow the $70 Can fee for this - sod it, I'm on holiday in a tourist trap, and make my way to my room, collecting a vast glass of lemonade from the Starbucks in the lobby on the way.

My bags are in the room, and I set the ac to Pluto and relax in its frosty embrace.

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Another gorgeous view - of the Bridal Veil Falls and the Rainbow Bridge (which connects Canada and Gilead).

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...and the Skylon tower...

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I connect to the (very fast) Wi-Fi and upload today's pics.

Good day - and it's only 1400.
 
Note on costs


Things seem expensive - in fact I paid more for my breakfast today than I paid for three on Sunday in the UK.

Parking has cost me $120 Can in the last two days alone. But it's summertime, in a tourist trap.

Also, Avril Lavigne is in concert in town tomorrow night, so everywhere is booked (hence my having to swap hotels).

The only thing I had in mind, when choosing Toronto as a destination, was to spend a night or two in a decent room overlooking the falls. I was prepared to pay £2-300 per night, but was pleasantly surprised to find the room rate was more like £120 per night. I'm factoring these costs in to my initial estimate - I'll likely be setting my sights lower when I leave Niagara tomorrow.

On that subject, any ideas on where (in Canada) I should head tomorrow?
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tripadvisor were saying head hudson bay -

looking at the map head for barrie then take the 11 north as far as you can

then head for fort george

the road doesnt look particularly straight compared to BC when you were on yer bike :)

quote from them

'I would reccommend heading north. Take the highway 400 north to cottage country or beyond.

Muskokas are Bracebridge, Bala, Gravenhurst. Lots of lakes and expensive cottages (Goldie Hawn etc.)

Or Hunstville and Algonquin Park. Real wilderness with frequent Moose siteings.

Parry Sound and the rocky Georgian Bay.

Sudbury for the north, lots of lakes and wilderness.

About 1 hour north of Toronto is the start of Laurentian Shield country with lots of granite lakes, and coniferous forests. Very differnt from southern Ontario which is clay belt and some limestone. You can really see the differnce on Google Earth. Also less roads, especially straight ones.

I've frequently drove up there and stayed in the small roadside motels or lodges on a lake.

One I've enjoyed a few times is the Tally Ho Inn near Huntsville and just outside of Algonquin Park.'

the other one......

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Enthusiastically second that. Not sure how much time you've spent in Canada jh, but if you haven't been up norh I'd strongly recommend it. A few hours north of Toronto brings you to an area that's pretty distinctive - - - nothing like you'd find in the UK, for example (and of course the UK has much that you'd never find here!). Lakes, forests, granite outcroppings, wildlife, etc. But still a good infrastructure and plenty of accommodation types to suit all tastes and budgets.

I grew up in the Niagara area, but just loved it when my family would go up north for a holiday in the summer. I know it's more of a Nintendo generation now, but I still thik a kid would find it pretty cool. Some of my best memories are from those trips. Getting all teary eyed, so I better stop now!'
 
Note on costs


Things seem expensive - in fact I paid more for my breakfast today than I paid for three on Sunday in the UK.

Parking has cost me $120 Can in the last two days alone. But it's summertime, in a tourist trap.

Also, Avril Lavigne is in concert in town tomorrow night, so everywhere is booked (hence my having to swap hotels).

The only thing I had in mind, when choosing Toronto as a destination, was to spend a night or two in a decent room overlooking the falls. I was prepared to pay £2-300 per night, but was pleasantly surprised to find the room rate was more like £120 per night. I'm factoring these costs in to my initial estimate - I'll likely be setting my sights lower when I leave Niagara tomorrow.

On that subject, any ideas on where (in Canada) I should head tomorrow?
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I’ve not been to Niagara for a few years but Canada in general is cheaper than the US, especially the west coast , where brek will set you back $35 before tip quite easily .
My favourite place in Toronto is half that .

With regards to where to go, I don’t suppose you’ve ever watched Schitt’s Creek ?
 
I’ve not been to Niagara for a few years but Canada in general is cheaper than the US, especially the west coast , where brek will set you back $35 before tip quite easily .
My favourite place in Toronto is half that .

With regards to where to go, I don’t suppose you’ve ever watched Schitt’s Creek ?
If Mike has, then the things to see aren’t that far away.
 
tripadvisor were saying head hudson bay -

looking at the map head for barrie then take the 11 north as far as you can

then head for fort george

the road doesnt look particularly straight compared to BC when you were on yer bike :)

quote from them

'I would reccommend heading north. Take the highway 400 north to cottage country or beyond.

Muskokas are Bracebridge, Bala, Gravenhurst. Lots of lakes and expensive cottages (Goldie Hawn etc.)

Or Hunstville and Algonquin Park. Real wilderness with frequent Moose siteings.

Parry Sound and the rocky Georgian Bay.

Sudbury for the north, lots of lakes and wilderness.

About 1 hour north of Toronto is the start of Laurentian Shield country with lots of granite lakes, and coniferous forests. Very differnt from southern Ontario which is clay belt and some limestone. You can really see the differnce on Google Earth. Also less roads, especially straight ones.

I've frequently drove up there and stayed in the small roadside motels or lodges on a lake.

One I've enjoyed a few times is the Tally Ho Inn near Huntsville and just outside of Algonquin Park.'

the other one......

quote
'
Enthusiastically second that. Not sure how much time you've spent in Canada jh, but if you haven't been up norh I'd strongly recommend it. A few hours north of Toronto brings you to an area that's pretty distinctive - - - nothing like you'd find in the UK, for example (and of course the UK has much that you'd never find here!). Lakes, forests, granite outcroppings, wildlife, etc. But still a good infrastructure and plenty of accommodation types to suit all tastes and budgets.

I grew up in the Niagara area, but just loved it when my family would go up north for a holiday in the summer. I know it's more of a Nintendo generation now, but I still thik a kid would find it pretty cool. Some of my best memories are from those trips. Getting all teary eyed, so I better stop now!'
Sounds good - just booked a room in Huntsville…:thumb2
 


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