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The latest 1290 Adventures have a lot of electronic options available so asking whether a 3rd party will be able to crack the system to activate them has to be worth asking. Of course the next step is to consider how much cheaper it would have to be to persuade the purchaser that going this way rather than through KTM is a good idea

On a bike still in warranty I'd pay KTM but on a 3 year old one it would depend on the saving.

 

[Nutty]

Flashing rear light was an option on 1190's I believe? Along with self cancelling indicators ~ both needed a software update/activation by the dealer.

Andres

It's got the self cancelling indicators as standard, so I'll ask about the brake light thing on Saturday.

 

[DING-DONG]

It's got the self cancelling indicators as standard, so I'll ask about the brake light thing on Saturday.

Are these still on a timer (10 secs) and not speed activated like the gs ? I had mine turned off because self cancel after 10 secs was way to early especially when negotiating roundabouts and pulling out of junctions.

 

[cookie]

Indicator self cancel is a time/distance thing on the 1190. Mostly works well IME.


I was surprised to find that the quickshifter was a £330 option on the 1290. From the tests i've read I thought it was standard.

 

[EVskiy]

Are these still on a timer (10 secs) and not speed activated like the gs ? I had mine turned off because self cancel after 10 secs was way to early especially when negotiating roundabouts and pulling out of junctions.

On bmw bikes indicators cancel out after 10 seconds or 300 meters while in motion. If you use dual carriageway or motorway III -> II -> I exit markers and start indicating at exactly III marker, then you will find that your indicator will self cancel about 40 meters before broken line at the exit. I tend to start indicating at halfway between III -> II markers, that way when i cross broken line, one more flash and it cancels it self out.

When stationary, moving forward from stationary and coming to a stop at the roundabouts, give way points, indicators will remain flashing until you've been in motion for 10 seconds or covered 300 meters, which ever comes first.

I suspect the principal is same or similar on KTM.


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I suspect the principal is same or similar on KTM.


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No there Not, well not on the GT mine turn off 10 secs after applied regardless, the tech at the dealers also agreed this operation was dangerous, especially after he nearly got wiped out, I had mine turned off.

 

[EVskiy]

No there Not, well not on the GT mine turn off 10 secs after applied regardless, the tech at the dealers also agreed this operation was dangerous, especially after he nearly got wiped out, I had mine turned off.

Oh well, +1 for BMW on this occasion


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[cookie]

No there Not, well not on the GT mine turn off 10 secs after applied regardless, the tech at the dealers also agreed this operation was dangerous, especially after he nearly got wiped out, I had mine turned off.

Surprising.

This is the blurb for the upgrade from the PP catalogue.

 

[DING-DONG]

Surprising.

This is the blurb for the upgrade from the PP catalogue.

That's deffo not the case with the GT and several other bods had the same issue as myself, maybe software glitch !! Anyways 150 yrds is still too short.

 

[Nutty]

So, over a year in, and the bike has been faultless. I’ve ridden it all over Europe (on purpose ), several trips to France, up to Scotland and down to Lands End, and the bike hasn’t skipped a beat.

The finish is still as new, no corrosion anywhere, and after cleaning it if I took the number plate off, it could be mistaken for a brand new bike.

I’ll certainly be keeping this for at least another year, and have more trips planned on it over the next few months. If KTM offered extended warranties, I’d have to seriously think about whether I’d actually chop it in.

If you want the power of an S1000XR but with more torque than a GS; the go anywhere/ do anything versatility and comfort of a GS, this bike will tick all your boxes. IMO, there is nothing on the market right now that comes close.

 

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So, over a year in, and the bike has been faultless. I’ve ridden it all over Europe, several trips to France, up to Scotland and down to Lands End, and the bike hasn’t skipped a beat.

The finish is still as new, no corrosion anywhere, and after cleaning it if I took the number plate off, it could be mistaken for a brand new bike.

I’ll certainly be keeping this for at least another year, and have more trips planned on it over the next few months. If KTM offered extended warranties, I’d have to seriously think about whether I’d actually chop it in.

If you want the power of an S1000XR but with more torque than a GS; the go anywhere/ do anything versatility and comfort of a GS, this bike will tick all your boxes. IMO, there is nothing on the market right now that comes close.

What is it?

 

[Nutty]

What is it?

A Harley eating time machine

 

[oddshapedballs]

So, over a year in, and the bike has been faultless. I’ve ridden it all over Europe (on purpose ), several trips to France, up to Scotland and down to Lands End, and the bike hasn’t skipped a beat.

The finish is still as new, no corrosion anywhere, and after cleaning it if I took the number plate off, it could be mistaken for a brand new bike.

I’ll certainly be keeping this for at least another year, and have more trips planned on it over the next few months. If KTM offered extended warranties, I’d have to seriously think about whether I’d actually chop it in.

If you want the power of an S1000XR but with more torque than a GS; the go anywhere/ do anything versatility and comfort of a GS, this bike will tick all your boxes. IMO, there is nothing on the market right now that comes close.

How hard is it on it's chain and sprockets? I'm tempted by one, but don't know if I can be bothered to go back to all that constant checking oily chain shit.

Did you get a Scottoiler fitted?

 

[Rasher]

If KTM offered extended warranties, I’d have to seriously think about whether I’d actually chop it in.

It is what stops me buying a 1290S, the TFT Screens, Semi Active Suspension, Keyless Ride are all just pointless gimmicks that could go wrong.

I am thinking of ditching the 1190 and getting another 1090, would feel a lot more comfortable with one of those after the warranty expires, I can live without 150/160BHP and quite enjoy having to work the 1090 a bit harder to get to the performance. Only real put-off is the lack of cruise control which is very high up on my list of things I do actually want.

 

[Nutty]

How hard is it on it's chain and sprockets? I'm tempted by one, but don't know if I can be bothered to go back to all that constant checking oily chain shit.

Did you get a Scottoiler fitted?

Tbh, it’s not much of a faff. I just make sure that I dry the chain after washing the bike (so it doesn’t rust), and lube the chain while it’s still hot (10 seconds at the end of each day), and it doesn’t flick lube everywhere. Cleaning the chain is a doddle with SDOC100 chain cleaner.

 

[Nutty]

It is what stops me buying a 1290S, the TFT Screens, Semi Active Suspension, Keyless Ride are all just pointless gimmicks that could go wrong.

I am thinking of ditching the 1190 and getting another 1090, would feel a lot more comfortable with one of those after the warranty expires, I can live without 150/160BHP and quite enjoy having to work the 1090 a bit harder to get to the performance. Only real put-off is the lack of cruise control which is very high up on my list of things I do actually want.

There is a lot to go wrong, but as it’s been flawless so far, I’m confident there shouldn’t be too many issues out of warranty. One of the other reasons I’d change after 2 years is that the cost to change won’t be as high as if I keep it for say 3 or 4 years.

But, there’s no reason why I couldn’t just bank the money I’d spend to change to a new bike, and leave it in the bank on the off chance of something big going wrong. Will see how I feel in 2019.

 

[Giles]

How hard is it on it's chain and sprockets? I'm tempted by one, but don't know if I can be bothered to go back to all that constant checking oily chain shit.

Did you get a Scottoiler fitted?

I have a Tutoro oiler fitted (no vacuums or electrics needed). Just had my first service and I guess they may have adjusted the chain then, but I certainly haven't had to do it in a year or ownership.

How hard is it on chain and sprockets? I guess that depends on how smooth or how ham fisted you are?!

(Nutty regularly has to adjust his .... )

 

[EVskiy]

A Harley eating time machine

All those hardl(e)y davidson owners will have to pay 25% more from now on, for a pleasure of buying a new one should they wish to upgrade


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[Nutty]

I have a Tutoro oiler fitted (no vacuums or electrics needed). Just had my first service and I guess they may have adjusted the chain then, but I certainly haven't had to do it in a year or ownership.

How hard is it on chain and sprockets? I guess that depends on how smooth or how ham fisted you are?!

(Nutty regularly has to adjust his .... )

I’ve not had to adjust my chain since I got the bike, and I’m not as smooth as you!

 

[Rasher]

I’ve not had to adjust my chain since I got the bike, and I’m not as smooth as you!

My 1190 has either never been adjusted in 12,000 miles, or was done by the dealer at 600 miles / 4000 miles (tyre) / 10,000 miles (Tyre and service)

Still looks good at the moment and I am about to set off for a 2500 mile jaunt and would be surprised if I need to adjust it before I get back, by which time it will be approaching another service. I don't even have an oiler fitted, just give it the occasional splash of lube when needed and clean it now and again (but only because it looks nice when shiny and golden)

After the GS / S10 I did say I would never buy another chain driven bike again, but then decided the few hours per year of effort was more than outweighed by having a much better performing machine, ride a LC GS and then a 1090 KTM and you will find it hard to believe they claim the same power as the 1090 is far quicker, the 1190 makes the GS feel positively weedy and the 1290 makes the 1190 feel a bit sluggish in places.

You also lose a ton of unsprung weight without a shaft which makes the ride quality noticeably better.

Chains have come a long way in the last few decades and no longer need regular adjustment and lubing as the most important bits to lube are now greased from new and sealed so you only need to get a smidge on the roller surfaces to ease theme over the sprockets.