Mapsource Query

[Growler]

Can anyone out there help with this. I've just purchased a Garmin Nuvi 360T mainly for use on 4 wheels but may see the occassional outing in the tankbag!. Anyway... I assumed I would get this Mapsource program on CD which would allow me to create my route and upload it to the Nuvi however only the owners manual on the enclosed CD?

The Nuvi 360 comes with full Europe mapping but trying to create routes on a 2" screen ain't funny?

Do I have to go out and purchase a Mapsource Program on CD to install on my PC or have I got this GPS thing all wrong?

Any help or advice would be appreciated

 

[Bumpkin]

Can anyone out there help with this. I've just purchased a Garmin Nuvi 360T mainly for use on 4 wheels but may see the occassional outing in the tankbag!. Anyway... I assumed I would get this Mapsource program on CD which would allow me to create my route and upload it to the Nuvi however only the owners manual on the enclosed CD?

The Nuvi 360 comes with full Europe mapping but trying to create routes on a 2" screen ain't funny?

Do I have to go out and purchase a Mapsource Program on CD to install on my PC or have I got this GPS thing all wrong?

Any help or advice would be appreciated

The bad news, I'm afraid, is that the Nuvi range only do point to point navigation. They are not capable of accepting routes from Mapsource. IMHO not suitable for recreational bike use. If it was sold to you by someone who claimed it would do this, or you asked them, then I would think you have recourse under the sale of goods act and the item not being fit for purpose as described or requested.

The closest you'll be able to get is uploading a set of way-points using POILoader, the easiest way of creating the required GPX file you need to do this would be to download Mapsource which is free. This comes without any mapping and I don't think you'll be able to download the mapping from your unit. This means you'll need to either purchase some which would be very expensive, cheapest would be Metroguide which would do the job fine but has no full postcode search (has a quirky but fairly effective address search that uses partial post code). Metroguide can be downloaded via BitTorrent but that would be naughty so I won't suggest that...

Once you have a working solution plot your route using enough via-points to ensure you follow the route you desire yet have them a reasonable distance apart as you'll have to stop every now and then and set up the next two (via-point and destination assuming you're at the start point/last (reached) destination.

I did this with a Garmin i3 that shares similar core navigation functionality with the Nuvis, having said that I did get frustrated and gave up after a couple of attempts and got a Quest which lacks the full postcode search and proximity alerts but otherwise works very well.

 

[Blackal]

Can't download routes? Bloody hell - I thought the Zumo was just a "bikerized" Nuvi

If that's true, then it is definately a case of "Garmin does TomTom"

Al

 

[Growler]

Bumpkin Quote:
The bad news, I'm afraid, is that the Nuvi range only do point to point navigation. They are not capable of accepting routes from Mapsource. IMHO not suitable for recreational bike use. If it was sold to you by someone who claimed it would do this, or you asked them, then I would think you have recourse under the sale of goods act and the item not being fit for purpose as described or requested.

The closest you'll be able to get is uploading a set of way-points using POILoader, the easiest way of creating the required GPX file you need to do this would be to download Mapsource which is free. This comes without any mapping and I don't think you'll be able to download the mapping from your unit. This means you'll need to either purchase some which would be very expensive, cheapest would be Metroguide which would do the job fine but has no full postcode search (has a quirky but fairly effective address search that uses partial post code). Metroguide can be downloaded via BitTorrent but that would be naughty so I won't suggest that...

Once you have a working solution plot your route using enough via-points to ensure you follow the route you desire yet have them a reasonable distance apart as you'll have to stop every now and then and set up the next two (via-point and destination assuming you're at the start point/last (reached) destination.

I did this with a Garmin i3 that shares similar core navigation functionality with the Nuvis, having said that I did get frustrated and gave up after a couple of attempts and got a Quest which lacks the full postcode search and proximity alerts but otherwise works very well.

Thanks for that... as I say I'm new to this with this being the first Sat Nav I've owned. It was, to be fair, bought for the car and from that point of view is an impressive piece of kit however I have to say I'm a bit disappointed that maps can't be uploaded to it...

My plan had been to use it for the ocassional longer trip in the tank bag connected via my autocom unit however the actual route selection could be a headache as it does seem to be a simple point a to point b in the shortest time device.

I'll have a look at your suggestions re the Mapsource/Metro guide. I did download mapsource from that link but as per the warning it doesn't run unless it detects an earlier Mapsource product on you machine Will try and get Metroguide and take it from there...

Thanks again guys..

 

[byker_tr]

Can't download routes? Bloody hell - I thought the Zumo was just a "bikerized" Nuvi

you can download routes to&from zumo using mapsource

check sticky threads : mapsource for dummies 1 - 2 - 3 (clik on the number)

 

[Blackal]

you can download routes to&from zumo using mapsource

check sticky threads : mapsource for dummies 1 - 2 - 3 (clik on the number)

Sorry - I was saying that I thought the Nuvi was exactly the same as the Zumo in that it could receive routes from mapsource on your PC. I thought the features were the same

Al

 

[Bumpkin]

I'll have a look at your suggestions re the Mapsource/Metro guide. I did download mapsource from that link but as per the warning it doesn't run unless it detects an earlier Mapsource product on you machine Will try and get Metroguide and take it from there...

Not absolutely certain as I already had City Navigator and hence MapSource installed prior to sticking Metroguide on my PC but I think as a Garmin mapping product it will come with MapSource as part of the install, City Navigator did. Once you've done that you'll be able to update it with the latest version of MapSource from the downloaded file.

 

[Growler]

Just reading the instruction manual(again) and found a page where it says that the Nuvi supports GPX Waypoint Files from Mapsource and Maps from Mapsource so does this mean if I can aquire Mapsource for my PC I can create and upload routes I wonder?...

(BTW - BitTorrent! Couldn't figure that one either!)

 

[Bumpkin]

Just reading the instruction manual(again) and found a page where it says that the Nuvi supports GPX Waypoint Files from Mapsource and Maps from Mapsource so does this mean if I can aquire Mapsource for my PC I can create and upload routes I wonder?...

The fact that it mentions just GPX files and Maps being transferable from MapSource to me infers that's all it can import. The manual only mentions MapSource in this context and whilst it's true that you can load maps this is mapping data only and is for the purposes of uploading mapping that you have purchased out of the geographical area of the mapping supplied with the unit (Mapping updates for Europe that you will have the option to buy when v9 is superseded will probably be loaded directly from DVD without MapSource). The GPX format is an accepted standard way-point format only, whilst it can be used to describe routes this is only via a series of way-points. You Nuvi would only see this as a set of way-points, not a route which takes us back to my suggestion of doing just that using your start point, via-point and final destination repeatedly stopping at each of the latter to reset the last two to the next two... if you get my drift.

I do recall some users of C series StreetPilot models on the Pocket GPS World forum asking Garmin UK for mapping on disk for back-up purposes a year or so ago and getting what they wanted. No harm in calling Garmin UK and asking nicely if you could have an 'on disk version' of the mapping for your unit. Their customer service is exceptional so you never know your luck.

 

[Growler]

Bumpkin... Once again Thanks

Did have a look at Garmin customer support phone no earlier this evening so I'll give them a call tomorrow. I'll let you know how I get on...

Should have splashed the cash and gone for the Zumo me thinks!

 

[Growler]

Phoned Garmin yesterday and they confirmed everything you said Bumpkin...They're .nNot willing to part with a "back up" DVD as they said that the mapping will be updated in January 2008 and I'll be sent a DVD then allegedly!

Not to worry, sun shining and I'm off out on the bike! Who cares if I get lost....!

 

[Dave Barrett]

Not to worry, sun shining and I'm off out on the bike! Who cares if I get lost....!

That's the right attitude

You mentioned in your first post that you have a tankbag - I guess it can accept maps more easily than the Nuvi