Missed service?

[B4ndit]

Thats the way I thought it should work if there is no problem going over a few hundred miles of the service why reduce the next one to compensate the bike is serviced to cover the next 6000 miles regardless of the previous mileage between services.

But according to BMW its not.

Obviously only a problem if worried about warranty's. Once again its back to a money making exercise.

Sooner a bike is out of warranty the better. Then at least common sense can be used.

Some clever fook at BMW is earning them a lot of money with this annual and 6000 mile service thing.

 

[B4ndit]

Oh and along with the extended warranty. I haven't considered that yet. But it sounds bloody expensive.

 

[B4ndit]

Maybe BMW could consider producing a paint touch up warranty in case we drop our beloved GS and need to tart up the crash bars or cylinder head guards. How about £50 per month for that. Best I patent that idea, Mr or Mrs BMW.

 

[Deleted account 181015003]

The bike has has its first annual service and will be out of warranty by the time the second comes up so they wont be doing it.

I think its a bit strange how they have shortened the service mileage just because it was a bit over last time.

As soon as its out of warranty I will be doing my own servicing the only reason they do it now is so they cant squirm out of any warranty issues.

 

[(RIP) Johno23]

But, it should get done at the first annual service when the bike was 1 year old??? So it should have been done prior to me picking it up last year, now leaving me with it to pay for this year.

Wish I hadn't looked at the service schedule now

Edit: Johno, I just read in a few places that it has to be changed at the first year for some reason then every 2 for the usual reason.

Yes that is correct, but no point worrying about it now though. Tell them and see if they sort something for you, or check to see if they did do it

 

[Mark1892]

Yes that is correct, but no point worrying about it now though. Tell them and see if they sort something for you, or check to see if they did do it

Not worrying, just wanted to be in the know for when I do mention it.

 

[AberdeenAngus]

Its not.

Its every 6000 miles and every year. Therefore my 2011 GSA is now due its 6000 mile service although it was serviced at 1850 miles in May. The 1850 was an annual service. Its now on just over 6000 miles and the service indicator is on. All very confusing and expensive. I feel as though I am being robbed by BMW.

Sorry, you're wrong. And if you've been told this by your servicing garage then they're wrong too.....or being deliberately disingenuous.
Drop an email to BMW Europe service manager if you don't believe me.
I've been writing service schedules for donkeys years.
The 6k and the yearly schedules are almost identical.
6k AND Yearly makes no sense.
6k OR Yearly makes perfect sense.

Believe what you will.

 

[birdseye]

Sorry, you're wrong. And if you've been told this by your servicing garage then they're wrong too.....or being deliberately disingenuous.
Drop an email to BMW Europe service manager if you don't believe me.
I've been writing service schedules for donkeys years.
The 6k and the yearly schedules are almost identical.
6k AND Yearly makes no sense.
6k OR Yearly makes perfect sense.

Believe what you will.

Not even sure about that. I very much doubt that anything nasty will happen if you skip a service or two, or just do the oil and filter changes. Regular servicing schedules irrespective of bike use are there to substitute for most of us not having the skills or knowledge to maintain our bikes on an "as needed " basis.

Met a car engine designer once. He had bought his wife's car new and hadnt changed tohe oil or filter for 5 years. His view was that it wasnt really necessary for the light use she put the car to. Certainly the religious adherence to schedules sometimes seen on the forum isnt required in engineering terms.

 

[n0ct0]

I would go with 6000 miles or every 12 months, whichever comes first.

 

[Steptoe]

Don't forget to factor in the speedo/mileage reading which is 10% over.

 

[Mad_Accountant]

The brake fluids are at the first annual and every two years after that.

So the OP is correct to state that it was NOT correctly serviced when sold to him.

 

[BBB61]

Don't forget to factor in the speedo/mileage reading which is 10% over.

Only on the 1150/1100's with the mechanical speedo

 

[Mark1892]

The brake fluids are at the first annual and every two years after that.

So the OP is correct to state that it was NOT correctly serviced when sold to him.

Cheers Mad. Not going to make a song and dance about it, after all it may well have been done. Will sort it this afternoon when I book it in.

 

[AberdeenAngus]

Not even sure about that. I very much doubt that anything nasty will happen if you skip a service or two, or just do the oil and filter changes. Regular servicing schedules irrespective of bike use are there to substitute for most of us not having the skills or knowledge to maintain our bikes on an "as needed " basis.

Met a car engine designer once. He had bought his wife's car new and hadnt changed tohe oil or filter for 5 years. His view was that it wasnt really necessary for the light use she put the car to. Certainly the religious adherence to schedules sometimes seen on the forum isnt required in engineering terms.

Couldn't agree more. I was referring to sticking exactly to schedule for warranty reasons. Out of warranty, I wouldn't do anything like that.
I give my bike a full service every two years. Same with the cars.

 

[Bendy toy]

On the other hand an aquaintance of mine ran a Honda 50 to work every day and changed the oil every 500 miles. The old semi-used oil went into his lawn mower. Both went on and on and on and eventually expired with rust rather than mechanical problems.

When I worked in heavy industry (1980s) we ran Terex 40 cubic yard earth scrapers to move coal about. They had two engine with each having its oil changed every week. They used about 45 gallons of oil per week.

We fitted one machine with oil bypass filters that had about 10x the filtering ability of the standard filters. After 1 week the filters were changed and the oil was lab tested. It was found to be as good as new - it certainly looked new. Same the following week and the next and....

After 10 weeks the oil was changed because we chickened out but it was still testing ok. After that all our off-road vehicles were fitted with bypass oil filters.

Clearly the big advantage was reduced oil use and servicing costs. The secondary gain was when the lab spotted metallic particles in the oil, we were able to drop the sump and change the shell bearings. That avoided what would have otherwise been a wrecked engine and the associated plant outage costs.

 

[B4ndit]

6k OR Yearly makes perfect sense.

That makes sense to me. But BM have got me by the short and curlies if I want to keep my warranty. So for now I will get it serviced. Not chuffed though.

 

[B4ndit]

Couldn't agree more. I was referring to sticking exactly to schedule for warranty reasons. Out of warranty, I wouldn't do anything like that.
I give my bike a full service every two years. Same with the cars.

Done strictly on mileage for me once out of warranty.

 

[Steptoe]

Only on the 1150/1100's with the mechanical speedo

The 1200 speedo works the same as the old K75/100 series and still gets it's signal from a mechanical ring in the final drive.

Funny, but the 1100/1150 speedos also get their signal from a mechanical ring, but use a bowden cable instead of an electrical cable to convert the signal. .

 

[NZRalphy]

No
No
No
No
No reason to a yearly service. Do it on mileage only every 6000 mile / 10000km

Come on, someone tell me what "happens" to your bike if it is sitting in your shed or garage and you are not putting the mileage on. Yeah your brake fluid is hydroscopic but it can wait until you get to the next mileage service.

Yearly service is nothing but sales BS

(Storage is different)

NZRalphy (chief maintenance engineer for years)

 

[Pukmeister]

No reason to a yearly service.

Come on, someone tell me what "happens" to your bike if it is sitting in your shed or garage and you are not putting the mileage on. Yeah your brake fluid is hydroscopic but it can wait until you get to the next mileage service.

I would disagree, if based on 'mileage only' some people would only get a service every 3 or more years.

The best reason for an annual service is to check for corrosion and a retorquing of some critical items such as frame fasteners and breakdown of perishable items eg tyres, and a clean and inspect of brake calipers. Seen the thread where the GSA rear caliper went through the rear spokes and could have killed the rider?? A good reason for regular servicing IMO.

As for not using the bike, what about by-products of combustion and condensation products in the oil? Unlikely to lead to extremes such as stannic oxide corrosion of the white metal bearings, but not good having acidic oil in the longer term if the bike is hardly used.