multistrada or GS

Simon_h said:
so how is extra power gained? I thought it was by increasing air flow (performance filters/headwork/performance exhausts etc) which you would then have to increase fuelling, greater displacement increasing fuelling, higher profile cam thus narrowing the power band and making it higher in the rev range or adjusting the timing in which case it effects engine longevity. Am happy to be corrected.
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Simon, you should drop round to Snells in Alton and ask for a test ride on the MTS1200. Make sure it is in touring or sport mode. Ride it back up the A339 to Basingstoke, turn round do it again, and then again and again. Then give it a bit of a spanking on a quiet stretch of the A31 to check the top end :D. You won't find it lacking in power in any part of the rev range.
 
snerkler said:
What if you increased engine capacity though? Couldn't you acheive more BHP, and even more torque?
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Absolutely, you've only got to look at the Rocket III to see what's achievable. Obviously the trade off is weight, handling and the physical size of the engine itself.

Tomcat said:
Simon, you should drop round to Snells in Alton and ask for a test ride on the MTS1200. Make sure it is in touring or sport mode. Ride it back up the A339 to Basingstoke, turn round do it again, and then again and again. Then give it a bit of a spanking on a quiet stretch of the A31 to check the top end :D. You won't find it lacking in power in any part of the rev range.
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oh I don't doubt it....but I've had to swear to the missus that I'll keep the gsa for two years. Whilst I admit to chopping and changing too often, 4wks might be a bit too soon.
 
Simon_h said:
Whilst I admit to chopping and changing too often, 4wks might be a bit too soon.
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You wouldn't be the first mate :augie:augie:augie

I decided I couldn't justify the MTS, so would stick with my GS for another few years.

Then I saw a 4 week old MTS on Ebay with only 450 miles on the clock, and I snapped it up for £3K less than the guy had paid for it!

:blast for him, but :D for me!!

He'd bought it for a big trip, which got cancelled while he was still running it in, so he decided to sell it on and get a new one next year for the rescheduled trip :eek::eek:

Reckoned he never got round to riding half the bikes he already has, so didn't need another one "cluttering up the garage". :eek
 
I expect he's flogging it to buy a Multistrada ;):D:D
 
why not take the bike you fancy out for a test ride and make your own mind up:nenau Simples.[/QUOTE]

jees the guy was just having some crack on... sometimes this forum annoys the h3ll out of me...
 
I rode the multi for an afternoon back to back with a GS adventure.

The multi is in a different league performance wise, about 20-30mph faster on the longer straights but that doesnt tell the full story, the performance is just brutal, even coming off the back off a 1000cc sportsbike it feels fast, almost too much so for the chassis. The screen is really shite if you are 6'2, buffety and noisey to the point it was serving no purpose. The luggage is flimsy. It will be also surely be a money pit a couple of years down the line if you were to change it.

Different bikes, one sways on the side of touring, one on performance/scratching. I think a GSA with ESA handles just as well though.

Both very entertaining bikes, but I think in the case of the multistrada just a bit too overpriced new with no discounts on offer, buy a used GSA and save a few grand for a track bike!
 
SiRich said:
I rode the multi for an afternoon back to back with a GS adventure.

The multi is in a different league performance wise, about 20-30mph faster on the longer straights but that doesnt tell the full story, the performance is just brutal, even coming off the back off a 1000cc sportsbike it feels fast, almost too much so for the chassis. The screen is really shite if you are 6'2, buffety and noisey to the point it was serving no purpose. The luggage is flimsy. It will be also surely be a money pit a couple of years down the line if you were to change it.

Different bikes, one sways on the side of touring, one on performance/scratching. I think a GSA with ESA handles just as well though.

Both very entertaining bikes, but I think in the case of the multistrada just a bit too overpriced new with no discounts on offer, buy a used GSA and save a few grand for a track bike!
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I've got to stop reading this thread as I'm getting more and more tempted to try the MTS :blast
However, I keep telling myself that the legroom's too small for me and at 6'4" the screen's not going to be sufficient. Plus, I've had superfast bikes and I'm wanting to slow down to preserve my life.
But I still want to try it :augie
 
test rode one friday....mmm.i am considering a change.however im takin it out again for a bit longer just to make sure...:)
 
I test rode the MTS at South West Superbikes in Bedfont. I had decided I fancied changing a few months back, and the 1200S looked ideal.

I am so glad I scratched that itch with a test ride.

The engine is phenominal and couldn't be faulted. I couldn't get comfortable though. The footpegs felt to resr set for this kind of bike and the seat/handlebars just seemed too close. As previously stated, I wonder what the quality will be like after a couple of UK winters.

In conclusion it is a great bike, but I think only for summer pleasure and limited miles, otherwise I think the residuals will suffer.
 
As part of a 2month tour through Australia and New Zealand last November and December I did a week through Tasmania on a R1200GS, with a mate of mine on a week old Multistrada.

It had the fueling problems, failed to start when the keyless go didnt work, and the limited fuel range was obvious due to the may stops at gas stations.

Still, I liked the look of it so we swapped, I think we did about 600kms that day.

I'm 6'5" and 210lbs. For me the bike felt very small, just could not get comfortable.

The handle bars were close, it felt like I'd been shoved way forward in the bike.

Coming from the BMW the handling seemed razor sharp and it was awesomely fast, must say I couldnt fault the handling and the engine for all that power!

Jumped back onto the Beemer the next day and felt instantly at home and more comfortable.

So - a great looking bike, and very very quick, but I just don't fit into it!
 
Hi All

VERY interesting thread.

I've been a sportsbike chappie to date but now am not as young as I used to be so a GS beckons. Been riding now for 28 years and my body is wearing out I think!

Then along came the MTS / GS choice. So suddenly I became *really* undecided!

But I've realised that the choice isn't which bike to choose at all - it's what do I want to do with the bike. I love speed, power, torque, everything that IS a bike. BUT the fact is, there is also something else I want nowadays - just to chill, to cruise about, to enjoy all that I pass by, to find that place I would never normally find.

I have an MTS test ride booked in a few days but I think I'm going to cancel. The reason - my mindset. I've grown out of nutty, breakneck speeds and into what bikes are probably really about.

This may sound a bonkers I guess but hey - I'm happy with the fact that I'm going to buy a tall, planted, long distance, good residual, comfortable, reliable machine. Apparently it's called a GS.
 
giles lamb said:
Well putting aside the forum politics, I took one out today for forty minutes or so. I thought it was a brilliant bike! The motor was fantastic, instant power and and a real rush of speed that I quite miss on the GS. I thought the handling was great too. The MTS holds a line brilliantly, it's tight and sharp; sometimes when i'm tramping on on the BM I have to really concentrate to keep it exactly where I want it, the MTS just sat where I put it, inch perfect.

Nice bike for spirited, hooning. I want one!! :drool
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My thoughts exactly, so I changed from GSA to MTS - absolutely love it. Mind you this is where I come to catch up on riding matters though, still the best forum, GS or otherwise.
 
dongleplonk said:
Hi All
This may sound a bonkers I guess but hey - I'm happy with the fact that I'm going to buy a tall, planted, long distance, good residual, comfortable, reliable machine. Apparently it's called a GS.
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Ditto, having come from a long history of fast bikes I do not miss them at all, I am riding far more often, for longer and down all sorts of new roads that just are not compatible with Sports bikes (i.e. 95% of UK roads)

I actually found the GS handling perfectly OK, just switched to road tyres and fitted Wilburs suspension and it is an absolute blast.

OK the MTS is a lot more powerful, but personally I do not find the GS engine dull or underpowered at the legal(ish) speeds I try to stick to these days.

If I never wanted to go touring and was just gonna go for little local rideouts etc. the MTS would be a better choice, but as an allrounder the GS is excellent.
 
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