My bike has gone back to BMW

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About three months ago, when on full left lock, I noticed that the forks were touching the left radiator slightly, and looking at the bike from the front, I noticed that something didn't look quite right. I took it to Vines, and they confirmed that the front was not straight, and the bodywork was lower on one side than the other. With the handlebars on full left lock, they were very close to the bodywork, and would touch the tank bag, when fitted. I booked the bike in to have the front subframe changed (the small frame that holds the bodywork on), however, when the bike was there, they discovered that the issue was more serious.

Vines took a lot of detailed photos, and sent reports back to BMW. After several discussions about the work required to resolve this issue, and after taking legal advice, it was at this point I told Vines that I was rejecting the bike, as I did not want my £14k motorcycle pulled apart, and didn't feel that this was acceptable. So, an appointment was made for two guys from BMW HQ to meet me, and take a look at the bike. After a long discussion, they asked what I felt would be acceptable, at which point I said that I wanted the bike replaced. They agreed, but said that as the bike has done 7500 miles, I would have to make a contribution towards the replacement.

On Thursday, I had a call from Vines to say that their dealer principal had been in negotiations with BMW UK, and that a deal had been offered. As the only other issue with the bike was the occasional thud from 3rd to 4th under hard acceleration, the bike had been faultless, and I enjoyed the ownership experience, so I had no problem contributing towards the cost of the new bike, within reason. I know of another case where BMW have replaced a bike with a similar frame issue at zero cost, however, am aware that that bike had a lot of other issues.

For a nominal fee (I'm not going to disclose the exact amount on here), BMW are building me a new 2014 GS TE in Bluefire, and replacing all the accessories that came with the bike (panniers, Akra, tinted screen, engine bars, etc.).

I know that the new GS has had its teething problems, and I'm sure that there will be more bugs to iron out yet, but BMW are aware of the issues, and are constantly working on fixing all issues. There are obviously several alternatives to the GS out there, but the level of customer service from BMW is unrivalled; they have gone out of their way to resolve this situation for me, and that is very important when spending a large amount of money on a motorcycle.

Vines have been fantastic throughout, and this really shows that they, and BMW, will go above and beyond to keep the customer happy. After this experience, I'd certainly have to think twice about considering another brand.
 
If you're happy with the deal then fine but effectively they've just given you a good trade in deal. Personally I wouldn't have been happy with that but good luck with the new one anyway.
 
Not an ideal situation to be in but it goes to show that BMW UK have made the effort to resolve the matter and I think like the nutty one that counts for a lot ... I am sure there are others out there who would still be arguing the toss and of course that gets you nowhere .... Good luck and let us all know what happens next !
 
If you're happy with the deal then fine but effectively they've just given you a good trade in deal. Personally I wouldn't have been happy with that but good luck with the new one anyway.

If the bike had caused Nutty any significant distress or even an injury, then I'd agree, a 'mere' favourable P/EX would be galling.

As it is though, much though it may surprise a few that I'm not instantly having a poke at the toilet, I'd say it was a good positive outcome.....He's jumped from being a Beta tester to almost being the owner of the final release product

Well done Vines/BMW, and Nutty....enjoy :beerjug:
 
Why should anyone have to pay anything to have a bike rectified under warranty?
 
In depends on the size of the 'nominal' fee. If it was in the hundreds I'd say it was a good deal.
 
Congratulations on a positive outcome Nutty, did you drop in the fact you are a gser moderator schmoderator to swing it?:D
 
Nothing unusual in this kind of practice by a manufacturer. Keeping the customer happy and focused on the brand is what counts. Customer wants a new bike? then fine. But a customer contribution is a perfectly normal thing to ask for. Nutty's bike will be reapired by BMW under warranty then sold back in to the market place as used stock

All the manufacturers do it
 
Glad you're happy bud, I do think Mr K has a decent point though.

But as long as you're happy that's the important thing. Enjoy your new new bike :)
 
Although it's sad to read your predicament, it's good to see that BMW have acted reasonably in the circumstances :thumb2 and some good work on the part of Vines :thumb2

I had a similar thing happen to me a few years ago with Honda. I bought a new Pan European ST1300, got the 600 mile service done, then went on a tour to Switzerland.
The bike started to misfire and refuse to start on occasions...I called into a dealer in Bern, and he diagnosed a faulty ECU..that would either be fine, or give up 100 yards up the road!....I had to return home.

The bike never showed the faults again, but never ran the same either, it was like the mapping was irregular.

My dealer eventually agreed to swap the bike, through a gesture from Honda, at no cost.

I guess the 'nominal amount' is the all important consideration to how happy we'd all be in your situation, but glad to see you're sorted, and enjoy the new bike :thumb2
 
It doesn't really matter what anyone thinks as Nutty and BMW have come up with a solution which suits both parties so good news all round:thumby:
 
Fair play Nutty, if it was me I wouldn't have posted this particular thread and just said I'd had the bike painted!!

But thanks for sharing. If you're happy then I'm happy for you.
 
Good luck to the OP as he is clearly happy with the outcome

Personally if I had been in that situation, I would of refused to pay anything

If the turnaround on the warranty repair was reasonable and the bike would be totally fixed properly I would of gone with that

Alternatively if the bike was deemed unsafe owing to a manufacturing error or fault I would of demanded a new bike at their expense, if they refused it would be the last business of mine BMW ever had bike or car wise.
 
I think The 13 model bikes second hand may be hard to sell..

I hope the 2014 bikes and the GSA water cooled are made to a higher standard.? But you've got to really wonder what BMW have been up too.
 
Good luck to the OP as he is clearly happy with the outcome

Personally if I had been in that situation, I would of refused to pay anything

If the turnaround on the warranty repair was reasonable and the bike would be totally fixed properly I would of gone with that

Alternatively if the bike was deemed unsafe owing to a manufacturing error or fault I would of demanded a new bike at their expense, if they refused it would be the last business of mine BMW ever had bike or car wise.

That's the point. The bike wasn't deemed unsafe. I had two choices - let BMW fix the bike under warranty, obviously at no cost to me, or pay a small amount to have the bike replaced. I chose the latter. Simple.:thumb
 
That sounds like a great solution to me, Nutty. Well done.

I know dealers often get a bad rap but sometimes they really do come through for the customer and it's good to show a bit of gratitude and loyalty in return when they do.
 
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