New R1250GS 2021 coming.

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Chuffed to find stuff for the 40 Year already. This was on Amazon.


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The Triple Black is almost identical to the exclusive, bar a couple of stickers.

Would need to see the T-B in the flesh but if you mean it looks almost identical to the 2017.5 version of the exclusive, then I'm following you; but not if you mean the last rendition. Never liked the last one much, as I prefer the more muted look of the 2017.5 and the T-B. And thankfully the gold wheels have been ditched. (Callipers are also now black, fwiw).
 
Is there a standard black or do you have to have that 40 year black and yellow one?
Triple black is an extra £800 !
 
Is there a standard black or do you have to have that 40 year black and yellow one?
Triple black is an extra £800 !

All of the advertising blurb has suggested not, and yet the configurator calls out a storm black version that, when you select it, seems to suggest you're actually selecting the bumblebee version. Could well be a configurator issue?

800 quid for what you get on the TB is a bit much, I agree, even though it'd be the one I'd go for. I'm thinking about taking the step from my 1200, as along with the engine there's altogether some nice upgrades from the 2017 model. I'll need to take another 1250 test ride first.

I'm trying to way up the balance of being able to move over my varios and all of my farkles and mods onto the new bike plus saving 1500 quid on warranty and MOTs vs what's coming down the line. I know we'll have the integrated sat nav before they finally close down this model, but I think I prefer what I have now with the Nav VI being in my line of sight and not phone dependent. Maybe take the plunge now and upgrade again in 3 years.

Ultimately, comes down to how much they want to take my pants down over the upgrade, including the px. My 2017.5 TE Ex has done 9.5k miles, and I'm very much guessing I'll get less than that in pounds for it.

(Editor's note - the author doesn't have room in the garage for another bike in the collection, otherwise he might instead buy an altogether different new bike to put alongside the GS. And he's also fortunate to be able to comfortably finance. He just fancies putting a little spark back into his GS ownership.)
 
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Ordered 3hours after Reggie.
 

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I’ve just ordered my new R1250 GSA TB and I was really pleasantly surprised at the PX value of my March 2017 TB with 18.5k miles. The cost to change was actually £1200 less than I was quoted against the previous GSA iteration in June :) Happy Days
 
Did you find out if you can have storm black as a standard colour without that Bumble bee edition?
 
I think the answer is no. The only standard option is now white.

Whether you like the bumblebee colour/design or not, adding 2k for that option really is pulling pants down, but so is 1k for the rallye and 800 for the TB. These sort of options have never been this price-cheeky in the past few years.
 
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I think the answer is no. The only standard option is now white.

Whether you like the bumblebee colour/design or not, adding 2k for that option really is pulling pants down, but so is 1k for the rallye and 800 for the TB. These sort of options have never been this price-cheeky in the past few years.

I don’t know where you are getting your figures from. I just order a New 2021 GSA and the TB option was £200 extra.
 
I don’t know where you are getting your figures from. I just order a New 2021 GSA and the TB option was £200 extra.

Interesting - and odd: just looked on the site and you are right, the TB option is showing as 200 for the GSA. If you look at the option for the GS, it's 800. Similarly, for the Raylle its 350 for the GSA and 1k for the GS.

Suspect it must be a configurator error, as the prices for the colour options on the GSA are in keeping with past releases. Visiting the dealer tomorrow, so will know then, unless somebody can enlighten in the meantime.
 
It will be interesting to see what these properly EU5 compliant bikes' performance is like when compared to the 19/20 bikes.
We need someone to get one run in, then have a trip to BSD. They'll be able to overlay the graph with the previous bike

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The bumblebee design is awful to my eyes. It looks like the yellow and black V-Strom from a couple of years ago.
 
Interesting - and odd: just looked on the site and you are right, the TB option is showing as 200 for the GSA. If you look at the option for the GS, it's 800. Similarly, for the Raylle its 350 for the GSA and 1k for the GS.

Suspect it must be a configurator error, as the prices for the colour options on the GSA are in keeping with past releases. Visiting the dealer tomorrow, so will know then, unless somebody can enlighten in the meantime.

Dealer has confirmed the price difference for the GS and GSA. Says it to due to the way the different bundles come together for the two models.

The price list I've been given seems to suggest that you can order the black storm without the TB option, least in TE form. Retail without options is 16,945.
 
It will be interesting to see what these properly EU5 compliant bikes' performance is like when compared to the 19/20 bikes.
We need someone to get one run in, then have a trip to BSD. They'll be able to overlay the graph with the previous bike

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Given that the shift cam engine was built with eu5 in mind, I suspect not a lot of difference, if any.
 
Given that the shift cam engine was built with eu5 in mind, I suspect not a lot of difference, if any.
I'm thinking that an EU5 compliant engine would have some performance differences to an EU4 one that was designed with EU5 in mind. Much like the late EU3 bikes that fuelled nicely, and the very similar EU4 bikes that didn't.
The 1250 EU4 bikes seem to use more fuel than expected (in my experience anyway), whilst dyno graphs show perfect fuelling. Maybe BMW will have changed tuning parameters that allow the same hardware to meet the new standards?

Or looked at another way... BMW clearly designed the engine for EU5, but then had a two year window to maximise performance owing to EU4's more lenient requirements?

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I'm thinking that an EU5 compliant engine would have some performance differences to an EU4 one that was designed with EU5 in mind. Much like the late EU3 bikes that fuelled nicely, and the very similar EU4 bikes that didn't.
The 1250 EU4 bikes seem to use more fuel than expected (in my experience anyway), whilst dyno graphs show perfect fuelling. Maybe BMW will have changed tuning parameters that allow the same hardware to meet the new standards?

Or looked at another way... BMW clearly designed the engine for EU5, but then had a two year window to maximise performance owing to EU4's more lenient requirements?

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I suspect the difference between the eu3 to euv4 (2017.5) and eu4/5 will be that in the former case they had to fudge existing tech, whereas in the latter case it's about fine-tuning existing tech already designed for the latest standards. Time will tell.

I await the series of threads in which those that purchased before the latest set of upgrades seek to assure themselves that they haven't missed out on anything, and which happens every single time a manufacturer releases a new or refreshed model.
 
I’ve just ordered my new R1250 GSA TB and I was really pleasantly surprised at the PX value of my March 2017 TB with 18.5k miles. The cost to change was actually £1200 less than I was quoted against the previous GSA iteration in June :) Happy Days

Cannons Witham perchance?
What did you get for your trade in?
 


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