Peed off (again)

[Shep]

Hi all

Bad news (for me) is that, after 8.5K miles, the brakes have started to play up on this (my second) r1200gs, very similar fault to the abs controller failure on my first 1200

The bike is still ridable and feels fine, however twice this week the warning lights (triange and brake) both times needing resetting by pulling over and switching off and on again, this is exactly the same symptoms which led up to the first 1200's demise

The question is, how many people have had replacement abs/brake controller modules BMW engineer reckons they have only had 2 fail , well i've had one who had the other then

Waiting for recovery now, as i have refused to ride it any further, untill they fix it

Just as the weather picks up as well

Shep

 

[Dahoum]

Not me.

Bad luck mate

 

[ampthill]

Hi all
The bike is still ridable and feels fine, however twice this week the warning lights (triange and brake) both times needing resetting by pulling over and switching off and on again, this is exactly the same symptoms which led up to the first 1200's demise

Shep

you haven't by any chance adjusted the rear brake pedal have you?

FYI my GS1200 would do this after I had the the pedal and brake switch adjusted so that the brake pedal did not have so much free play before it took effect. Then every once in a while the same thing would happen to me - and it could be along a smooth bit of road with out having touched the brakes. Took it back to the dealer and they said something about the sensor information becoming conflicting and consequently shutting down the abs/sevo. Anyway ever since they readjusted the pedal to its original position I have never had the problem return so, in my case at least, the two did appear to be linked.

Peter

Peter

 

[Shep]

you haven't by any chance adjusted the rear brake pedal have you?

FYI my GS1200 would do this after I had the the pedal and brake switch adjusted so that the brake pedal did not have so much free play before it took effect. Then every once in a while the same thing would happen to me - and it could be along a smooth bit of road with out having touched the brakes. Took it back to the dealer and they said something about the sensor information becoming conflicting and consequently shutting down the abs/sevo. Anyway ever since they readjusted the pedal to its original position I have never had the problem return so, in my case at least, the two did appear to be linked.

Peter

Peter

No nothing has been changed or adjusted at all, both switches checked and operating ok, visibly checked resevoir levels all ok.

Engineer now says he may not bother comming out now and will just recover the bike to SPC

Starting to suffer a bit of "de ja moo" now

Shep

 

[Timolgra]

Shep, the writings on the wall if you change your bike again go for non ABS I simply wouldn't entertain having any of the servo/abs options on any bike, too much that could and does go wrong.

Hope you get sorted before the 'cut' freezes over again

Tim

 

[Shep]

Shep, the writings on the wall if you change your bike again go for non ABS I simply wouldn't entertain having any of the servo/abs options on any bike, too much that could and does go wrong.

Hope you get sorted before the 'cut' freezes over again

Tim

Hi Tim, TBO I was looking at Septics 1100 last weekend, really nice looking bike, I may be tempted if I can find the right bike

I was following Fanum and pint6x last w/e and thats kind of put me off any 1150 thoughts I had

But hey i'm on a downer at the moment, it'll be ok when mine comes back, I hope, eventually, maybe

Shep

 

[Fanum]

OI!!!

Woss wrong wi'mme bike then huh???

 

[Shep]

OI!!!

Woss wrong wi'mme bike then huh???

Oh nothin' really but when it took three of us to pick it up I kinda went off them


Shep

 

[(RIP) Kaister]

1100 v 1200

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70334&highlight=1100+1200

http://www.micapeak.com/bmw/gs/gs12vgs11.html

 

[Scoomacher]

I dunno Shep - you park up next to me in Basingstoke and then hey presto your bike goes on the blink! If its any consolation I have never had any ABS problems on the 5 beemers I have owned. Plenty of jumping out of gear probs but no ABS issues!!! I will have to give up on the clutchless changes.

Hope you got your tent sorted!

Scooie

 

[Shep]

I dunno Shep - you park up next to me in Basingstoke and then hey presto your bike goes on the blink! If its any consolation I have never had any ABS problems on the 5 beemers I have owned. Plenty of jumping out of gear probs but no ABS issues!!! I will have to give up on the clutchless changes.

Hope you got your tent sorted!

Scooie

Hi Scooie

Yep, I think you may have put a jinx on me then again I've never had jumping out of gear problems

Camping was all sorted out, very enjoyable


Glad you got back OK

Shep

 

[Parky]

I've just had the ABS control unit replaced. The ABS failed twice, leaving me with no brakes then a front wheel lock up, fortunately I kept it shiny side up both times.

The diagnostics showed a front ABS sensor failure after this and it was duly replaced. It lasted a day before it did it again, the brake failure light came on at start up, I restarted and it cleared, but it came on again within half a mile. Back to Jefferies again, where it was showing a failed front ABS sensor again.

As it obviously wasn't this, they changed the ABS pump and control unit and so far it's been OK (a couple of hundred miles), but it doesn't exactly inspire confidence....

Full marks to Jefferies though, even though they couldn't replicate the fault they replaced the ABS pump and control unit without any quibbles.

 

[Shep]

I've just had the ABS control unit replaced. The ABS failed twice, leaving me with no brakes then a front wheel lock up, fortunately I kept it shiny side up both times.

The diagnostics showed a front ABS sensor failure after this and it was duly replaced. It lasted a day before it did it again, the brake failure light came on at start up, I restarted and it cleared, but it came on again within half a mile. Back to Jefferies again, where it was showing a failed front ABS sensor again.

As it obviously wasn't this, they changed the ABS pump and control unit and so far it's been OK (a couple of hundred miles), but it doesn't exactly inspire confidence....

Full marks to Jefferies though, even though they couldn't replicate the fault they replaced the ABS pump and control unit without any quibbles.

Ah! so you were the other one then

Mine just gone on the GT1 (diagnostic) and it shows the abs controller has a fault, they've asked me lots of questions about battery condition, start up procedure etc. But as the bike is used daily the battery is usually well charged at all times, SPC have a guy called howard from BMW popping in for a chat this afternoon, hopefully all will be sorted then

Shep

Upside is that the hire car they've given me is a 2.0 diesel golf, very nice

 

[Parky]

Ah! so you were the other one then

Mine just gone on the GT1 (diagnostic) and it shows the abs controller has a fault, they've asked me lots of questions about battery condition, start up procedure etc. But as the bike is used daily the battery is usually well charged at all times, SPC have a guy called howard from BMW popping in for a chat this afternoon, hopefully all will be sorted then

Shep

Upside is that the hire car they've given me is a 2.0 diesel golf, very nice

Yep, they asked me the same questions about battery condition, and I gave the same answers.

I managed to ride in both times so no nice hire car for me, although Jefferies gave me a very nice K1200R for one day while waiting for a courtesy bike. Quite lively

 

[Shep]

Yep, they asked me the same questions about battery condition, and I gave the same answers.

I managed to ride in both times so no nice hire car for me, although Jefferies gave me a very nice K1200R for one day while waiting for a courtesy bike. Quite lively

Ha, same as I did with my old 1200, took the bike in for a check up every time the warning light came on, only to be told the fault was no longer current , however when I finally entered into discussion with BMW over the possible replacement, they said I should have recovered the bike each time so at least they would have had a record

So this time I've learn't and I will get it recovered each time untill they fix it

Shep

 

[Iain Robertson]

I'm new here so if I'm being a bit dopey, don't let it surprise you. I am moving from the delights of Ducati to a 1200 Adventure that should arrive in a few weeks. I've spec'd ABS. I'm a wee bit surprised (horrified is nearer the truth) to hear that the ABS can fail leaving no brakes. Is this right, or do you just lose the servo and get left with 'wooden' brakes?

 

[Timolgra]

I'm new here so if I'm being a bit dopey, don't let it surprise you. ?

Don't worry you don't have to be new here to come across as being a bit dopey

'When' the servo fails it leaves what BWM call 'residual braking', riders who've experience it call it 'feck all braking.'

 

[Shep]

I'm new here so if I'm being a bit dopey, don't let it surprise you. I am moving from the delights of Ducati to a 1200 Adventure that should arrive in a few weeks. I've spec'd ABS. I'm a wee bit surprised (horrified is nearer the truth) to hear that the ABS can fail leaving no brakes. Is this right, or do you just lose the servo and get left with 'wooden' brakes?

Hello and welcome, in the worst case you'll get left with "wooden" brakes (residual braking) happened to me only the once i can remember, when the rear brake switch was damaged/fouled by mud when offroading, another common reason is the handguard fouling the brake lever, then when on start up, the safety system detects a fault, and decides to leave you residual braking, warning you with flashing lights on the dash Not fun, but alot better than no brakes at all.

I feel you will be unlucky if you suffer the list of faults and failures I have, my first 1200 was an early 04 model, bought ex-demo and as documented, came with a variety of built in faults

I am sure you will enjoy many miles of GS'ing in the near future, and don't forget this website tends to concentrate any information, and if you insist on reading the technical pages you will get a distorted veiw of any bikes reliability

Shep

 

[Iain Robertson]

Thanks to you both. That is not quite such a horrifying prospect.

PS I don't see BMW being able to compete with Ducati when it comes to reliability. Last bike (admittedly 10 years old but had been mine since new) ate clutches at the rate of 1 every 10 tanks of fuel and cylinder head studs even more frequently.The v-twin rumble rarely co-incided with thumbing the start button and I did come to regret having a garage at the bottom of a hill. Still loved it though!

 

[Shep]

Thanks to you both. That is not quite such a horrifying prospect.

PS I don't see BMW being able to compete with Ducati when it comes to reliability. Last bike (admittedly 10 years old but had been mine since new) ate clutches at the rate of 1 every 10 tanks of fuel and cylinder head studs even more frequently.The v-twin rumble rarely co-incided with thumbing the start button and I did come to regret having a garage at the bottom of a hill. Still loved it though!

Yep, bin there done that, i think it was the £650.00 service cost at 5,500mls that finished my ducati years for me

Shep