GelandeStress
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Lol you must be joking. Have you seen the 20 videos I posted on this noise? If BMW thought it was a ‘coin’ then wouldn’t have disassembled the engine and taken 8 weeks!
R1250GS Rattling noise
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GelandeStress
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And why do you speak with such confidence that they have spent ‘80hours’. Most of the time has been in waiting parts.
GelandeStress
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Yeah I can see by your comment history that you love a random and pointless response
Yes I bought the Motobatt hybrid after my GSA let me down hot restarting once too often. The new battery is simply superb, it delivers 350CCA and the bike bursts into life with every tap of the starter button and shows better voltage on the bike info page of the TFT, details in my thread “Big pile of dogshit”, see post #204 for best price.
Big pile of dogshit
Why oh why did I trade my hex head for a 1250. Currently sat at my local Sainsburys petrol forecourt with a bike that yet again won’t restart, awaiting BMW assist to message me with a time to attend. I’ve only ridden the bloody thing twelve miles home, I wish I hadn’t stopped to get petrol. Got...
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I never really thought about it in imperial measurements, but now that you mention it……(from memory I think my Hexhead was 0.25 on the exhaust ?)
My bike is a lot smoother and quieter now but you can still hear what sounds like top end rattle from the valve train. It was like a bag of spanners prior to the service.
Victor c
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Could well have been the spark plugs at the end of their life. There is chatter on the ADV Rider forum, relating to the plugs struggling to last 12000 miles and causing running issues.
GelandeStress
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Hi All, I collect the bike yesterday and so far there is no rattle noise anymore.
BMW replaced the clutch basket and all internal parts with wear and I need to be gentle for 600 miles as the engine is running in again.
My best guess is the clutch basket having excessive movement, given where the noise comes from (around the front/top of the engine) and that it has bearings and the ability to develop play over time. Apparently it’s just the basket and not the whole clutch. They did however replace the clutch basket 6 months ago but the noise came back after 2 months… maybe they are commonly faulty/excessive movement?
I was strongly advised by BMW to only use the expensive super unleaded fuel, I’m not sure if this is because of the bike or the fuel quality getting worse due to emissions.
Any questions just ask. All the best with your bikes.
BMW replaced the clutch basket and all internal parts with wear and I need to be gentle for 600 miles as the engine is running in again.
My best guess is the clutch basket having excessive movement, given where the noise comes from (around the front/top of the engine) and that it has bearings and the ability to develop play over time. Apparently it’s just the basket and not the whole clutch. They did however replace the clutch basket 6 months ago but the noise came back after 2 months… maybe they are commonly faulty/excessive movement?
I was strongly advised by BMW to only use the expensive super unleaded fuel, I’m not sure if this is because of the bike or the fuel quality getting worse due to emissions.
Any questions just ask. All the best with your bikes.
Super unleaded only ?
That suggests detonation with lesser grade fuels ??
That suggests detonation with lesser grade fuels ??
GelandeStress
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Yes, but this noise was definitely not detonation. It made the rattle when I revved the bike as well as constantly rattling at 70mph. I think they were just being cautious for the future.
GelandeStress
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Also, I usually use super unleaded and the noise is always present!
I’ve suspected my clutch as the source of my noise for some time now. My recent 24k major service has improved the top end noise but she still clatters a little on light throttle around 2750 rpm.
GelandeStress
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I have heard the noise in YouTube videos, but the riders haven’t seemed to notice it. My bike rode lovely after the service with fresh shaft oil!
sven
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Took my bike in for its two year service today and the mechanics acknowledged there is an issue but couldn’t diagnose the root cause.
I’m collecting it in the morning and it’ll go back in for an in depth diagnosis in a few weeks.
I’m collecting it in the morning and it’ll go back in for an in depth diagnosis in a few weeks.
GelandeStress
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Is your noise the same noise as the videos in this thread? If it is, then you can tell them that my BMW dealership just spent 8 weeks rebuilding the engine with approved parts from BMW Germany. Best of luck
sven
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It’s the same noise between 2000 - 2500 rpm as heard in the video in post #141
With great reluctance, I am going to join the 'Just ride it, you've got a warranty' brigade. The most important thing is that it is recorded with BMW so in the event of a very big bang, they can't say you didn't tell them. Issues like this ruin your enjoyment of the bike and play on your mind, living rent free in your head (Don't ask me how I know). It's worse because you are an engineer. My 1250 makes all types of scary noises that I notice when I haven't got the earplugs in and my riding buddy's new 1300........takes it to another level!! Take care buddy.
My 1250GSA has quietened down a lot since its recent major service with valve checks to an acceptable level, I assume they have reshimmed and retimed the cams…. It will never be totally quiet, that much I’m resigned to.
The 1300 loan bike they gave me with only 3000 miles made my GSA sound quiet, I’ve been an Engineer since 1982 and if I didn’t know better I would think its engine was damaged internally (such was the mechanical noises it made) despite how smooth and quick it was.
sven
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I had a chat with both the tech who serviced the bike and the master tech (who looked about 12 years old - I must be getting old).
The software was updated but made no difference. The oil was clean, so no sign of mechanical wear which is a good thing.
The master tech didn’t accept that it was pinking or detonation as the sensors would have logged a fault, so they’re mystified at the moment as to the source of the noise.
It’s booked in for a couple of days at the beginning of August for a more thorough exmination, so watch this space….,
The software was updated but made no difference. The oil was clean, so no sign of mechanical wear which is a good thing.
The master tech didn’t accept that it was pinking or detonation as the sensors would have logged a fault, so they’re mystified at the moment as to the source of the noise.
It’s booked in for a couple of days at the beginning of August for a more thorough exmination, so watch this space….,
GelandeStress
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This was my mindset. Then I realised that once you’re outside warranty then BMW will do everything in their power to avoid fixing. Unless you can somehow proceed with legal action there is no body which will hold BMW to account to fix a fault part.
I suggest taking to social media as I’ve had luck complaining publicly towards BMW, whereas emails get ignored for weeks…
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