Shep
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As it will effect obviously effect all of Great Britain if the sweats decide to bugger off and become 'Nordic' whatever that really means, we should all get a vote surely??
RISE NOW AND BE A NATION AGAIN !
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Shep
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No you shouldn't. Merry Christmas....
You might be surprised!
That's irrelevant. As I've said before, Westminster has a controlling interest over all the member countries of the UK. Scotland is deciding whether or not it wants to opt out of the UK, not divorce England. I know that notion might offend Anglocentric sensibilities but it's the way it is. So it's not up to the English to decide whether or not Scotland should stay in the UK any more than it is for Scots to decide if England should stay in the UK; even if things might actually work out better if we did vote the English out and continue as the United Kingdoms of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Capiche....?
nothing to do with me but my god how do you lot intend to vote? From a spectators view there seems to be zero facts on either side, the reality is no-one actually knows how it would all work out. You gonna vote with your head or your heart on this one?
Oh and by the way attacking someone's comments for living south of the border seems rather simplistic, most of us are made up of english, Scottish, irish and welsh somewhere in our lineage….well unless your really inbred that is!
Oh and by the way attacking someone's comments for living south of the border seems rather simplistic, most of us are made up of english, Scottish, irish and welsh somewhere in our lineage….well unless your really inbred that is!
wully
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Norway kept ALL its oil Revinue and re injected all their gas as there was no home market for it.
The UK spunked away all the oil revenue and burned all the gas in cheap power stations.
If Scotland had had control of the oil Revinue from day one we might,just might have invested it in creating an economy like Norway has.
Then again these imbeciles in Holyrood can't even build an office for themselves or a toy train track without fucking it up never mind building a bridge we don't need so there isn't much hope there either.
I think the answer is just to get rid of politicians.
Shep
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I don't need to 'Capiche' your own version of the proposed exit of Scotland from the UK, i have my own reasons for supporting the split, i live in a country that has arranged a partial separation and that works OK with a few advantages over living in England, but i fear the achievement of total separation of Wales from the UK is not realistically achievable, however Scotland has a chance to grow some balls and organise separation from the UK AND exist perfectly well, my only concerns are for the less well off scotts, i do hope the Independence achieved rewards everybody concerned not just the middle to upper class scotch
D)
This thread was started on an article saying Scotland contributed more to the Unions coffers than average, I was just following the theme and stating my view that as a higher than average ( financial) contributor I have no desire to define myself and others like me as separate group and break away from the union.
Couldn't care less what your desire is. Unless Harpenden has suddenly shifted north by 300 miles, you have no say in the vote in September so it would be wise for you to stay out of this thread.
Thanks for the advice but I think I'll ignore it if you don't mind. As a contributor to the current Union and all that it stands for and has fought for I would like to share my views and hears those of others...
wully
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You fought for the union? You must be VERY old.
If you are a betting man, at the moment you will get 4/1 on Scotland becoming independent in the Scottish referendum vote. Which tells you all you need to know about a 2 horse race. If the people (not only Scots) who want Scottish independence want to succeed they need to give the English a referendum and the Scots would be independent before they could get their kilts in a twist. But we mustn't point that out. Nuff said. Merry Xmas.
....apologies that's not what I intended to say or thought Id written
wully
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Nor really implied, just trying to take the piss since I can't get excited about the whole thing, especially when someone from down south tries to discuss it.
I'm not being disrespectful but it is nothing to do with anyone outside Scotland as it's our future that's at stake. Besides which most opinion from south of the border seems to be either " good riddance, you get more than you deserve" or " we'd vote to get rid of you if we had the chance"
TBH, I'm in two minds. England has already pissed away most of the oil and gas revenue and the scum politicians up here are, like their partners in crime in Westminster, a bunch of completely incompetent wankers.
Happy new year, when it comes.
A quite frightening but astute observation Wully. If the Parliamo/Tram fiasco is a measure of the future government in Scotland..............
Sorry, must go, I need the toilet rather urgently. no not a WC GS.
Happy hols to you.
With respect Wully, its a whole fucking lot to do with those (the English for starters) outside Scotland. You might not like the fact but the English want rid of Scotland. The real question is why?
I'm not sure I agree with that... I can understand why a part of the UK wants to test if the majority in that part want to become independent and why the vote should be limited to those that live in that part of the UK but the impact of a yes vote would effect everyone in the UK so it's not just your future at stake.
So with all due respect ( that's English for fuck you) I'll continue to listen to others and share my views on what ever subject I fucking like...
morty
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and i for one wouldn't trust any of the arseholes we have in the scottish parliment,honestly listen to any of them in a debate it makes me cringe.
Shep
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No ! This is about Scotland deciding its own future.
That was a little tongue in cheek, you are very welcome to do whatever you want with your country IMO, the sad fact is that a lot of Scots appear to be saying that the rest of the union will suffer badly after the separation, if that's the case we should all get a vote then, truth is, i suspect, that life will just carry on for the union and for Scotland with or without membership of the UK.
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