whats under the seat he worked at
handlebar lock didnt take much to break
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=375_1430275531
handlebar lock didnt take much to break
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=375_1430275531
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I'm guessing either alarm or seeing if there's a tracker fitted.
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Diagnostics plug. Plug a device in, program ecu, push button, start bike and your gone. Made even easier with keyless since you don't even have to force a lock. Not that that would add much time to the job anyway.
That video is perfect example of why you need to use a decent chain / U lock or similar - yes they can be overcome but it takes time- so they will have a higher risk of being caught and usually go on to the next easy target .
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Yep gotta agree with that, or at the very minimum a disc lock with alarm, they are a pain in the but for the low lifes who look for the softest target.
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If it is a std GS, the diagnostic plug is behind the RHS panel. Not sure where it is on a GSA. I'm also pretty sure the diagnostic plug is dead until ignition is switched on.
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Or you loop a supply in. Only other way to start a vehicle like that is to swap ecu like they do with some well knows marks. There is a whole market grown around hardened diagnostic plug locks and ecu cages to try and stop this. Most of it not stopping anything.
Its the ease with which they snap the steering lock that causes me concern.
But as BMW told me when I queried the removal of the remote alarm programming facility , "We take security seriously." So it must be strong enough.
But as BMW told me when I queried the removal of the remote alarm programming facility , "We take security seriously." So it must be strong enough.
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Yeah, steering lock looked like it took hardly any force at all. Wonder why manufacturers don't provide a way of threading through a ulock or something similar to double lock it.
Because many bods (lots and lots of them in London) cannot be arsed to lock their baby, steed, keeper (call them what you will) with anything, even a basic disc lock available on-line (so no chance of being ripped-off) for about £30 and now someone wants the manufacturer to fit something else. Meanwhile, they'll bitch like fury that their insurer ripped them off at last renewal for the £200 they wanted to insure the same baby, steed, keeper 24/7/365. It's always some other fecker's fault.
PS Just how much force did you think it took from those bloody great levers, called handlebars, to snap a steering lock? You know, those same wide bars that help mr bikermate turn the simply awesome bike like a riding god through the twisties, all nicely angled so bikermates' wrists don't ache on the ride-out to Tesco with likeminds.
Here's a nice GS for someone to nick this morning.
No security beyond the steering lock.
Corner of Muscovy Street and Tower Gardens, EC3
There's a nice 125 KTM that's close by in the same bay every day, no lock or chain either.
And the cnuts moan that other cnuts pinch them. The theft (of bikes owned by cnuts that probably live miles away) forces up the central London post code theft premiums of those of us who live here.
No security beyond the steering lock.
Corner of Muscovy Street and Tower Gardens, EC3
There's a nice 125 KTM that's close by in the same bay every day, no lock or chain either.
And the cnuts moan that other cnuts pinch them. The theft (of bikes owned by cnuts that probably live miles away) forces up the central London post code theft premiums of those of us who live here.
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Here's a nice GS for someone to nick this morning.
No security beyond the steering lock.
Corner of Muscovy Street and Tower Gardens, EC3
There's a nice 125 KTM that's close by in the same bay every day, no lock or chain either.
And the cnuts moan that other cnuts pinch them. The theft (of bikes owned by cnuts that probably live miles away) forces up the central London post code theft premiums of those of us who live here.
Do you feel better for posting that?
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Errr, what kind of world do you live in ?
Yes ... It is the fucker who steals the bike ...HIS FAULT!
Not a hard concept to grasp heh?
I dislike the blame, that gets apportioned to those who fail to carry a heavy chain ( that a disc cutter goes through like a knive through butter)
If every rider used a chain there would still be thefts.
Changes in policing and criminal justice are needed, not more locks.
Bod in post #9 wants more locks, preferably fitted by the manufacturer, naturally.
Funny old world.
Of course if you think riders of motorbikes parked in central city locations - where theft of motorbikes is endemic if these pages are to be believed - have no obligation (if only to themselves) to provide their possessions with even the most rudimentary of security, that's up to you. Though you might think that not providing anything further by way of self-help encouraged the theft epidemic that everyone is complaining of.
Funny old world.
Of course if you think riders of motorbikes parked in central city locations - where theft of motorbikes is endemic if these pages are to be believed - have no obligation (if only to themselves) to provide their possessions with even the most rudimentary of security, that's up to you. Though you might think that not providing anything further by way of self-help encouraged the theft epidemic that everyone is complaining of.
i agree with Aberdeen
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Water Money ... agreed.
Unicycler , thank you.
wapping seems to think its wrongful to leave your bike without a chain.
His words were "And the cnuts moan that other cnuts pinch them."
Nothing to do with the criminals heh?
Maybe he is the sad misguided guy who looks at a rape case and says "she was wearing a short skirt, provocative and certainly asking for it ?"
Unicycler , thank you.
wapping seems to think its wrongful to leave your bike without a chain.
His words were "And the cnuts moan that other cnuts pinch them."
Nothing to do with the criminals heh?
Maybe he is the sad misguided guy who looks at a rape case and says "she was wearing a short skirt, provocative and certainly asking for it ?"
Surely, since no-one actually declares where their bike will be parked - the Post code which is attributed to thefts........ is the owner's home one.
Al
The bike in the video wasn't started. It was pushed away by a scoot riding scrote with his foot on the pillion footpeg.
I think you maybe putting words into Wappings mouth. I don't see where Wapping has absolved the criminals of any blame
In fact you even quote him as calling them "cnuts".
He's just pointing out that fellow bikermates howl at the manufacturers for lack of security (which using your logic means they are also not blaming the scrotes that "pinched my awesome steed mate") while not bothering to spend a farthing of their hard earned on protecting their pride and joy.
If by that distaseful capitalised comment you mean is it easier to steal a motorcycle that has no additional security over the easy to snap steering lock (see video) then yes, of course it is. If you also mean, might an opportunist (or dedicated) theif prefer to steal a bike with no security over one that has some, simple logic dictates that they'd target the easiest to steal vehicle first.
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Well; lets see what he said;
"Here's a nice GS for someone to nick this morning.
No security beyond the steering lock.
Corner of Muscovy Street and Tower Gardens, EC3
There's a nice 125 KTM that's close by in the same bay every day, no lock or chain either.
And the cnuts moan that other cnuts pinch them. The theft (of bikes owned by cnuts that probably live miles away) forces up the central London post code theft premiums of those of us who live here. "
So how is it different from my example; of the judge who said "her skirt was too short she was asking for it ?"
I'm not advocating leaving an unsecured bike.
BUT I do think if you do, you shouldnt be criticised. (especially by other bikers!)
Much the same as we all recognize that Hi Viz jackets help one "be seen" .... But I dont think anyone should be censured for riding without Hi Viz.
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