Russ
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this is true, but they are a great hoon in the dry still 
Roll on the warmer months
Roll on the warmer months
Unfortunately this thread, which started off with such excellent and admirably unnecessary abuse hurdle at Russ, appears to have degraded into sensible comment.
Russ - clearly this is entirely due to your complete ignorance of how to ride a bike, and possibly is some kind of compensation for a small penis...
Personally I like to change my tyres weekly
Russ - clearly this is entirely due to your complete ignorance of how to ride a bike, and possibly is some kind of compensation for a small penis...
Personally I like to change my tyres weekly
jimbo said:
If you regularly make "good progress" 
as a previous post suggests, I'm guessing but there can't be a hell of a lot of useful life left in them. I at any rate have more confidence in the tyre grip on a warm Summers day, than in the cold Winter days - it may be psychlogical, but it does affect your confidence.Wraithwrider
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Grip is partly (wholly?) a product of the hysterisis (Hysterical) of the tyres rubber.
If the surface of the tyre if closer to the carcass (i.e. worn) then is it not reasonable that the hysterisis or abitity to deform into the road pattern will diminish therefore reducing grip?
Just a thought.
If the surface of the tyre if closer to the carcass (i.e. worn) then is it not reasonable that the hysterisis or abitity to deform into the road pattern will diminish therefore reducing grip?
Just a thought.
clerici
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some people worry me..reading about tyres, paranoia sets in and I go and look at the bike...my Tourances have done 8k miles, they are a little squared off because of M'way mileage but the wear is good...maybe for another several k
Now about wheel spin....what!? The roads here in the UK..ah yes Russ is UK based...have been totally sh*t this year - not much rain has allowed all the crud to build up and they have been slippy, I mean really awful...so - as has been said - a little less right hand Sir, watch for the extra "oh whoops" surfaces like paint and drain covers (dropped my Bantam on a wet cover many moons ago...) and only give it welly on good surfaces...safer, faster, potentially much much cheaper...but hey Spring is almost here - it has rained and the roads are getting better but only in between the tractor trails of mud between fields, deisel spillage, more white paint, the stuff that collects on hatched areas, in the kerbs.....arrrggghhhhh
Now about wheel spin....what!? The roads here in the UK..ah yes Russ is UK based...have been totally sh*t this year - not much rain has allowed all the crud to build up and they have been slippy, I mean really awful...so - as has been said - a little less right hand Sir, watch for the extra "oh whoops" surfaces like paint and drain covers (dropped my Bantam on a wet cover many moons ago...) and only give it welly on good surfaces...safer, faster, potentially much much cheaper...but hey Spring is almost here - it has rained and the roads are getting better but only in between the tractor trails of mud between fields, deisel spillage, more white paint, the stuff that collects on hatched areas, in the kerbs.....arrrggghhhhh
I wonder if it is not something to do with the design of the GS?
Mine has Bridgestone Trailwing tyres on it and its not yet covered much more than 1000 miles. Yet I find the back end sliding much more readily than it ever did on my last 2 bike - a VFR and a Pan. And I am not particularly a fast rider. In the past I have listened to people talking about torque pulses from Ducatis and speculating that that may be the reason why they accelerate away from corners so well. Maybe we are getting the same from the flat twin, giving good pick up in the dry and some slippage in the wet.
Maybe you dont agree, but my riding hasnt changed yet my bike slides about more than its predecessors did and there's lots of tread on the tyres.
Incidentally, if you're thinking of BT20's, maybe you've got the wrong bike. They are 100% road which the GS is not.
Mine has Bridgestone Trailwing tyres on it and its not yet covered much more than 1000 miles. Yet I find the back end sliding much more readily than it ever did on my last 2 bike - a VFR and a Pan. And I am not particularly a fast rider. In the past I have listened to people talking about torque pulses from Ducatis and speculating that that may be the reason why they accelerate away from corners so well. Maybe we are getting the same from the flat twin, giving good pick up in the dry and some slippage in the wet.
Maybe you dont agree, but my riding hasnt changed yet my bike slides about more than its predecessors did and there's lots of tread on the tyres.
Incidentally, if you're thinking of BT20's, maybe you've got the wrong bike. They are 100% road which the GS is not.
Wraithwrider
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Unless of course you the OWNER choose it to be!!
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birdseye said:
Nope, in your case Birdseye, it'd because you're running the crappest tyres you could possibly fit......have a read of the tyre faq to see the comments on 'deathwings'.
Russ.....I know you've already commented on HArry's suggestion about them being squared off, but I think the man's hit the nail on the head here......
You said it happens most noticeably on a particular junction, and you also said the tyres are squared off a bit.
Even if they have tread left, if you lean a little to take the junction, you'll probably be on a very narrow edge, the angle off the flat bit of the middle of the tyre if you see what I mean......so with only a thing strip or rubber in contact, it'll slip like mad.
JMHO.
jonboy
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Wraithwrider said:Unless of course you the OWNER choose it to be!!
I agree totally.
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Lloyd
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I have Bt020's on my 1200, with about 4000 on them they are slightly squared off and i have been getting wheelspin on wet tarmac exiting corners. Now i could put this down to some problem with the bike\ tyres\ lunar cycles, but im pretty sure that its because the 1200 is fantastic in the wet, in fact in any condition . Im riding harder due to the confidence inspiring handling, hence leading to the bike spinning up . It doesnt even feel dangerous, in fact it is making me exit corners harder, picking up on the throttle much earlier.
Great bike, great tyres. maybe Russ you are having the same "problem" ?
Great bike, great tyres. maybe Russ you are having the same "problem" ?
Wraithwrider
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And I didn't ride my bike over half term because there was no school run
Seriously, with Tourances fitted the 1200 makes a superb road bike. It's comfortable, gives great visibility and has plenty of oomph for overtakes. As a real off road bike, well all I can say is there's going to be a lot better, even if TCK 80s are fitted.
Nope, the Chelsea Tractor/GS analagy just doesn't hold up for so many reasons IMHO.
Feel a poll coming on.
I agree its a great road bike - I certainly prefer mine to my previous road bikes. Interesting comment about the brand of tyres BM have fitted to mine. Could be thats the cause of the skittishness, but since its rear end only (thank god!) I'm more inclined to think its me, the twin cylinder bit, and pulses of torque.
Its a definite Chelsea tractor. No question. Way more now being bought than in the R80GS days, and iften by sports bike refugees. bringing with them all the crap about loud exhausts, huggers, dyno runs etc.
Nothing to do with them being fashionable? Of course it is.
Anyway, I'm off to throw some mud on my bike. Got to go to Tesco!
Its a definite Chelsea tractor. No question. Way more now being bought than in the R80GS days, and iften by sports bike refugees. bringing with them all the crap about loud exhausts, huggers, dyno runs etc.
Nothing to do with them being fashionable? Of course it is.
Anyway, I'm off to throw some mud on my bike. Got to go to Tesco!
all the crap about loud exhausts, huggers, dyno runs
oh ye of short memory........
I seem to recall loads of discussion about y-pieces, dynos, remus, side panels, fender extenders, etc long long before the 1200 was even on the drawing board.
Then of course there is the perennial and crucial matter which has been discussed ad nauseam on every single model: Which colour is the fastest?
Paul
(BTW, for the 1200 it's blue, grey, black and for the 1150, it's silver. Don't know about the GSA - either black or silver, I guess)
oh ye of short memory........
I seem to recall loads of discussion about y-pieces, dynos, remus, side panels, fender extenders, etc long long before the 1200 was even on the drawing board.
Then of course there is the perennial and crucial matter which has been discussed ad nauseam on every single model: Which colour is the fastest?
Paul
(BTW, for the 1200 it's blue, grey, black and for the 1150, it's silver. Don't know about the GSA - either black or silver, I guess)
split28
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Birdseye
Trail/Death wings are cr@p and do not inspire confidence, especially in the wet.
I got 4200 miles from the rear and a couple of hundred more out of the front on my Adv.
Changed to Tourances and immediately the bike felt less twitchy in the wet. Wear rates seem about the same although I'll get more out of this set as I've been riding through winter so not pushing quite as hard
Trail/Death wings are cr@p and do not inspire confidence, especially in the wet.
I got 4200 miles from the rear and a couple of hundred more out of the front on my Adv.
Changed to Tourances and immediately the bike felt less twitchy in the wet. Wear rates seem about the same although I'll get more out of this set as I've been riding through winter so not pushing quite as hard
split28 said:Birdseye
Trail/Death wings are cr@p and do not inspire confidence, especially in the wet.
I got 4200 miles from the rear and a couple of hundred more out of the front on my Adv.
Changed to Tourances and immediately the bike felt less twitchy in the wet. Wear rates seem about the same although I'll get more out of this set as I've been riding through winter so not pushing quite as hard
Thanks _ I'll give them a try when the current tyres are a bit more worn.
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