Don’t really agree.
The CF Moto 450 MT isn’t a copy of anything really and is very inspirational. Probably why it’s sold out for the next 12 months !
Just watch a Nathan Millward vid such as this and see how he admires CF Moto for building a bike that nobody else has done …
Marcus at P and H was raving about them . He sold every one he got his hands on . Meanwhile KTM sales are so dire that they are giving up the franchise.
Think it will be while though before we start seeing anything inspirational coming from Chinese manufactures other than what is basically copies of main stream bikes.
sounds familiar
in the 1960s, Japan focused on small capacity, utilitarian bikes then we had the CB750 & Z1 which focused riders' minds in terms of performance and reliability at relatively low cost compared to what the Europeans offered
you may have noticed, the Japanese have moved their focus back towards smaller capacity, utilitarian machines but even they are vulnerable to this wave from China.
I think you’re forgetting about a lot in the middle. They didn’t jump from Honda 50 to 750. JJHsounds familiar
in the 1960s, Japan focused on small capacity, utilitarian bikes then we had the CB750 & Z1 which focused riders' minds in terms of performance and reliability at relatively low cost compared to what the Europeans offered
you may have noticed, the Japanese have moved their focus back towards smaller capacity, utilitarian machines but even they are vulnerable to this wave from China.
I think you’re forgetting about a lot in the middle. They didn’t jump from Honda 50 to 750. JJH
No kit with me .Just a look or did you get a ride?
Also what did you think of the finish?
Very true, but I reckon these CF Motos and Voges will be common place in next year or so and depreciation will not be so bad .Depreciation is always a bone of contention...buy a new KTM and get screwed over by...KTM themselves some months later when they knock off the VAT or suchlike.
Buy a BMW and only lose 40% in 3 yrs, whereas a Voge may lose 60%...but the 40% equates to £6000 whereas the 60% equates to £5400....mmm (or just PCP one an walk away after 3 yrs...having spunked more than £6k overall....)
I'm presuming the XR was c £10k...goes to show the bullshit attached to 'depreciation' or rather how well BMWs hold their value (not).Currently riding an F900 XR, which I rate as the motor and handling are great, but I fancy something newer. Paid a visit to my local Voge dealer (QB Motorcycles, Brierly Hill) yesterday to have a look at one and was bowled over. This is not a cheap Chingling knock off - this is a serious bike and fully loaded.
The finish is good with some really nice touches - stitching on the saddle, heated grips and seat, built in dash cam and rear facing radar which gives a flash of hazard and brake lights to warn 'Tail gaters' to back off. No ASC or cornering ABS and the dash is LED not TFT (I believe) but I can live with that. Oh and don't forget the aluminium panniers and top box. I've not worked it out fully but a BMW F900GSA with these specs would be north of £16k I recon. This will cost you £9,199 OTR.
Bit of reluctance from the dealer to Part Exchange as 'BMW's are a bit niche' as he put it. Just waiting to see what sort of deal they can swing. (BMW offered me £4k for my 4 year old bike with 23K miles on against another F900XR)
Look out BMW you're on notice!