Wanderer69
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Hi, What is the Cruise control issue you speak of.? Not up with this one... Cheers
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When I started this thread I stated that I had the rear brake light failure warning on my TFT screen with the WW fitted inc Denali light brake/running light. This proved to be one of the indicator/brake lights although the indicator still worked. I could cancel this TFT warning using the wizz but it was replaced with a Cruise Control Inoperative warning. As the Cruise Control is linked to the braking system it is my guess that the loss of a brake light turns off the Cruise Control
In my original thread I mentioned that Mark at WW thought a software update could cure the problem.
My bike is booked in for a service next month, so today I called in and asked if the service involved a software update. I was informed that it didn't and that BMW did not advise software updates unless it was absolutely necessary as the update could cause other problems. I was told that I could insist on an update but if it did cause problems I would be liable for the cost to rectify the problem!
The bikes on a SORN at the moment and comes back on the road on 1 March so I'll see if the problem arises again. If it does, I'll contact WW again and invoke their 4 year warranty.
its only a UK bit of BS "re. issues with software updates", whilst there is always a tiny risk programming any update to anything, its small and the benefits are often huge - and the slight risk is all theirs when its in warranty - its just a dodgy BM UK cost saving exercise - and that's mostly a desire to have part baked bikes that don't perform as well as the new ones - as they want you to buy another bike...
as its says a page back they released 6 versions in 2024 through the year - each update had improvements the bike needed !!! they don't have all they guys back at base bug fixing and getting stuff to work adequately just for fun - its essential fixes for known mistakes and addressing lots of customer complaints
every second Tuesday Microsoft force patches on your PC / Laptop just as they have done every single month for 31 years does anyone stress a lot about this ?
BMW USA often have owners queuing outside dealerships waiting for the new updates to be applied on release day (on the cars)
as its says a page back they released 6 versions in 2024 through the year - each update had improvements the bike needed !!! they don't have all they guys back at base bug fixing and getting stuff to work adequately just for fun - its essential fixes for known mistakes and addressing lots of customer complaints
every second Tuesday Microsoft force patches on your PC / Laptop just as they have done every single month for 31 years does anyone stress a lot about this ?
BMW USA often have owners queuing outside dealerships waiting for the new updates to be applied on release day (on the cars)
I’ve designed a waterproof bag, intended to sit on the rear seat of the bike.
Trouble is, there’s nowhere on the bike I can locate and affix the securing straps.
I think I should ask BWM to re-design the rear of the bike’s subframe to suit my bag? Do you think they would do that? For free?
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I fitted this kit to my bike today, just over £300 to ship to the UK including import duties (£66!). The wiring can be placed under the plastic 'plate' that sits under the BMW rear rack if fitted, you just have to put a small slot in the plate edge to allow the wiring for the B6, then push the wiring through into the under seat area - it's really tidy. The bracket for the 'high level' B6 looks to be 3D printed and seems up to the job. I'll report back with any issues.Today I received an alternative for the WW, which is, according to the sales guy, functionally identical but should not have this particular issue. I will give it a go.
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Long live Brexit i guess. I had the same, the other way around, with the Weisers.
You have it fully out of sight now? Nice!
Can you perhaps post a picture where you feed the cable to the under seat area?
Indeed it is. He told me spent quite some time on finding the right materials.
Update to this thread..... I spoke to Weiser and they offered to swap out the wizards for the WeiserCan for the difference in price. A bit more faff to fit, more connections and takes up extra room under the seat. But all works perfectly now, no error messages. Very happy.
I've just got round to decluttering the back of my bike and have removed the rack and pannier rails, so the high mounted B6 came off as well, and I haven't any warnings since. My Weisers are wired up inline and the B6 was pigtailed to one of the units.
The Vision Pro units that Shiny Side Up sell seem to be getting alot of good reviews, to my knowledge no reported issues with error messages although I will confess I've not used them personally myself.
Is the sole purpose of these Weiser Wizards to separate the brake light and indicators on modern GSs ?
Exactly that, same as the Vision ones and the other brand who I forget their name
A Bike Thing seems to have mainly built an entire business around fitting these wizards.
Can’t quite get my head around paying £20K+ for a bike and then having to fork out extra to make the bike safe to ride .
How do BMW get it through the required regs if it’s that bad ?
I thought the same,ABikeThing are pushing Weiser products heavily especially the new WeiserCan.
And I have no clue to be honest, I was sceptical about it being an issue until a friend of mine came up to me when I had my previous 1300GS and said flat out he refused to ride behind me anymore cause he can’t tell if I’m indicating or not when I’m braking as well. He reckons he was never too close to me but that’s a whole different conversation
This makes literally no sense. The 1300 rear turn signal during braking flashes the high intensity brake light on and completely off. How can anyone not see that? This myth is perpetuated by those who have never taken the time to actually look at it.I thought the same,ABikeThing are pushing Weiser products heavily especially the new WeiserCan.
And I have no clue to be honest, I was sceptical about it being an issue until a friend of mine came up to me when I had my previous 1300GS and said flat out he refused to ride behind me anymore cause he can’t tell if I’m indicating or not when I’m braking as well. He reckons he was never too close to me but that’s a whole different conversation
It's not bad, it's actually quite good, you've just been told stories
If my indicator is on, and I apply the brake the red light part of the light goes from medium brightness and is then permanently lit up at full intensity making it harder to see the indicator part. I’ve seen it with my own eyes, I didn’t just buy the Weiser modules on a whim. Without the Weiser modules I mean.
The brake light only flashes under very heavy braking.
Funnily enough I briefly followed a 1300 yesterday . He turned right without indicating . Unless of course his brake light masked the indicator . Which it probably did as I saw him brake but not indicate .
This started on the last generation of the 1250 GSs and how BMW got this through approval is beyond me. I’ve done thousands of miles behind and on these bikes and the standard lights are dangerous tbh. Those that have fitted the WW are so much easier and safer to follow.
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