A Rothehithe wander

[Wapping]

The pub being shut, caused me to look at the signpost:



And take the small alley alongside the pub:



This brought me to the entrance of the former Greenland Dock, with its large hydraulic capstan:

Greenland Dock - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Wapping]

Strictly speaking, this brought me to the end of my Wander. In essence I / we have wandered along the edge of the peninsula from west to east, following the river as it bends around from the Angel.




But, I still had unfinished business. It was too early to wait until 17:00 for the Ship & Whale to open, but I guessed that if I wandered back to the Blacksmith’s Arms, I’d be there a little after 16:00 when it would be open.

I wasn’t disappointed. It’s an excellent ‘locals’ pub and very friendly:




From there, I hopped onto the C1 bus and off again at Rotherhithe station for the train home:



A good day out.

Steam Turbine ISLE OF THANET built by William Denny & Bros in 1925 for Southern Railway Company, London, Passenger

Steam Turbine ISLE OF THANET built by William Denny & Bros in 1925 for Southern Railway Company, London, Passenger Arrived at Blyth for breaking by Hughes Bolckow Ltd.

www.clydeships.co.uk

 

[Wapping]

We should be thankful that they are still able open at all

Indeed so.

Pubs are still closing at an alarming rate. It will be a very sad day when they are all gone.

 

[RedRick Esq.]

Leaving the chuch, it’s but a short wander to the Mayflower pub, very close to the Brunel Museum. I have been to the museum before and is anyway shut on Thursdays, so I missed it out but plan to go back there later in the year:

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The Mayflower and lunch:

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Pub wise, the beer is a big improvement over Sam Smth’s, so I reverted back to bitter. Of course it’s popular with tourists, so it will be very busy in high summer.

The Mayflower

The Mayflower pub is a hidden gem in the heart of Rotherhithe, London. A traditional English pub surrounded by cobbled streets, the outside decked jetty and cosy candlelit restaurant have stunning river views.

www.mayflowerpub.co.uk

About Us - Brunel Museum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-VnQ3CEvQQ Our Mission To preserve and share widely the ground-breaking stories of the Thames Tunnel project and the outstanding achievements of the Brunel family and their relevance to our lives today. We inspire communities through exploration, learning and...

thebrunelmuseum.com

I suspect that when the Pilgrim fathers, who were of course yorkshiremen from Austerfield, went in that pub their first words would have been "how much?"

 

[snelly]

Strictly speaking, this brought me to the end of my Wander. In essence I / we have wandered along the edge of the peninsula from west to east, following the river as it bends around from the Angel.

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But, I still had unfinished business. It was too early to wait until 17:00 for the Ship & Whale to open, but I guessed that if I wandered back to the Blacksmith’s Arms, I’d be there a little after 16:00 when it would be open.

I wasn’t disappointed. It’s an excellent ‘locals’ pub and very friendly:

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From there, I hopped onto the C1 bus and off again at Rotherhithe station for the train home:

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A good day out.

Good stuff wapping; looking at your google map am i right in assuming that cable street across the river was the same cable street involved in the disturbance yours ago with the facists.

 

[Wapping]

cable street across the river was the same cable street involved in the disturbance yours ago with the facists

Yes.

There’s a large mural that records it:

 

[Dave T]

Not at all. It’s interesting to hear about bits (large and small) that go on around these London projects.

The church you are maybe thinking of is, I think, St Dunstan’s which is allowed to fly the Merchant Navy’s Red Ensign flag. There are several other churches and charitable institutions dating back to when the area was a vast docks, several dealing with specific different nations that made up the seafarers.

Somewhat stupidly, I missed seeing the Norwegian seafarers’ chuch in Rotherhithe! There’s a Finnish church nearby, too.

The church spires (all different) also acted as navigation points for ships using the river, radar and GPS not being dreamed of.

Thank you for the 'wander' post @Wapping ..... really fascinating to learn about a city from someone with a clear interest in the place where they live.
As an aside, I believe that the orientation of the Anglican Cathedral in Liverpool, unusual in that it is on a North/South rather than the traditional West/East orientation, was to also aid maritime navigation... a similar purpose to the spires referenced in the post above. Due to the shape of the site where the Cathedral stands it could only have been built in that orientation, however I understand that the site was selected specifically for that reason, such that the Cathedral would be elevated and 'broad side' on to the Mersey allowing maximum visibility of the landmark from the water, rather than seeking an alternative site elsewhere in the city which would have allowed the traditional orientation.

 

[LOLGEOFF]

I suspect that when the Pilgrim fathers, who were of course yorkshiremen from Austerfield, went in that pub their first words would have been "how much?"

...swiftly followed by " What a shithole, let's go to America!"

 

[RedRick Esq.]

...swiftly followed by " What a shithole, let's go to America!"

Bawtry, which is about 3 miles from Austerfield ( home of the pilgrim fathers)
AS you enter Bawtry there is a big sign proudly stating that it was a 12 century port

I never have worked out why the daft twats walked to London to sail to USA when a port was 3 miles away

 

[Wapping]

I’ll go back at some point, to visit the missing pub and to see a bit more, not least the Norwegian church and more of the Surrey Quays and Greenland Dock, along with the nature reserve.

But first I believe a West End pub crawl might be on the cards….

 

[Wapping]

But first I believe a West End pub crawl might be on the cards….

Done today. 12:00 to 18:30 door to door.

 

[Wapping]

Reading about the long and varied history of London’s docks, I have found out that the famous American artist, Whistler (he of his mother) was a regular at the Angel pub In Rotherhithe.

He drew the view along the river from the same balcony as I sat on:

https://www.ukgser.com/community/threads/london’s-docklands-fiona-rule.531554/

 

[LOLGEOFF]

This website is very interesting too with other links to other areas of what a lot of people now consider to be London.

The Royal Docks - Victoria, Albert and George V - A London Inheritance

Exploring the history of the Royal Docks using some of my father's photos of the Royal Victoria Dock from 1953. Ships, cranes and bollards.

alondoninheritance.com

What's surprising in the great scheme of things, until relatively recently London itself was quite a lot smaller when a lot of these places that we now consider to be parts of the capital were built. Large portions of the home counties being enveloped by the expansion of the metropolis

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knowyourlondon.wordpr.com

 

[vincentrapide]

Thanks very much for posting all this interesting information. Much appreciated.

 

[Jockser]

Just caught up. Great read about part of a place I've visited numerous times but don't really know
Must go back sometime but as I age cities hold less of a pull for me

 

[Wapping]

Must go back sometime but as I age cities hold less of a pull for me

Let me know if you do please, as I’d be happy to meet up.

London is much quieter than people believe. Yes, the main transport hubs may well be busy in the rush hour and / or Oxford Street on a Sunday lunchtime. But, the capital’s a huge area and its eight million plus inhabitants are not all out on the streets at once.

 

[Wapping]

This website is very interesting too with other links to other areas of what a lot of people now consider to be London.

The Royal Docks - Victoria, Albert and George V - A London Inheritance

Exploring the history of the Royal Docks using some of my father's photos of the Royal Victoria Dock from 1953. Ships, cranes and bollards.

alondoninheritance.com

What's surprising in the great scheme of things, until relatively recently London itself was quite a lot smaller when a lot of these places that we now consider to be parts of the capital were built. Large portions of the home counties being enveloped by the expansion of the metropolis

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knowyourlondon.wordpr.com

I have several prints of old maps of London, framed up. It’s interesting to see the expansion of the city, either as a whole or just (in my case) fairly central. It’s similarly interesting to see the arrival of the canals and then the railways.

I bought this excellent large format book, just recently:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpqwrqp3yzxo?app-referrer=deep-link

It shows exactly the point your post made, how London has grown and yet, how some streets in the middle have sometimes stayed the same.

Maps and particularly the long history of map making has always fascinated me. How do you map the outline of Australia, when you’ve arrived on a sailing ship? How do you map, by hand, the Himalayan mountains? How did they map America as they opened up the vast continent in a wagon train or by river or on foot?

Maps are power. I read about the Macedonian warrior Alexander the Great, approaching an unknown city which he intended to besiege and conquer. His army brought a prisoner to Alexander’s tent who claimed he could draw an accurate map of the city. Alexander had the man draw it at once. When finished, Alexander had the man killed, as he (Alexander) had a map and nobody else could now get one.

 

[oblertone]

On being posted to Stoke Newington in 1981 I looked it up in my book of English place names to be informed that it meant 'clearing in the forest'. On arrival I noticed there weren't many trees left

 

[LOLGEOFF]

On being posted to Stoke Newington in 1981 I looked it up in my book of English place names to be informed that it meant 'clearing in the forest'. On arrival I noticed there weren't many trees left

They didn't say how big the clearing was..

 

[oblertone]

I've also seen London described as 23 provincial towns and two cities linked by numerous villages; which I thought was quite apt.