But am I right in thinking there is no need for a regular retest after passing the initial IAM advanced test?
Yes, if you opt for the normal membership level, and not the new 'Fellow' membership.
But am I right in thinking there is no need for a regular retest after passing the initial IAM advanced test?
And if you're an Observer with the IAM and take the IMI regulated National Observer qualification it's also a retest every 5 years.
I see everything ...
Can you see my bloody bike key, I've put it down somewhere...bugger !
One point I have had a snagget with is the IAM mantra of " Be able to stop on your side of the road in the distance you can see to be clear "...
Okay, I'm coming to a right hander, the vanishing point is 60 meters and steady.... I can stop in that 60 meters if need be. I am riding close to the gutter to get the best vision around the corner...Now if a combine harvester or other mahoosive truck starts to come into vision and I need to stop, I won't have that 60 meters anymore, cos the fat bastard will be closing the distance down, so should the rule be " be able to stop in HALF the distance" ?
Absolutely not. I have a IAM F1RST pass from 2 years ago, but had to check there wasn't a requirement for any retest to maintain that qualification after reading a couple of the posts. IAM have introduced new levels for membership that I wasn't aware of hence my question.
I see everything ...
Can you see my bloody bike key, I've put it down somewhere...bugger !
One point I have had a snagget with is the IAM mantra of " Be able to stop on your side of the road in the distance you can see to be clear "...
Okay, I'm coming to a right hander, the vanishing point is 60 meters and steady.... I can stop in that 60 meters if need be. I am riding close to the gutter to get the best vision around the corner...Now if a combine harvester or other mahoosive truck starts to come into vision and I need to stop, I won't have that 60 meters anymore, cos the fat bastard will be closing the distance down, so should the rule be " be able to stop in HALF the distance" ?
Not necessarily, you could simply execute the 'Nigel manouever' beautifully demonstrated at the start of this enduring thread and look like a riding god.
I see everything ...
Can you see my bloody bike key, I've put it down somewhere...bugger !
One point I have had a snagget with is the IAM mantra of " Be able to stop on your side of the road in the distance you can see to be clear "...
Okay, I'm coming to a right hander, the vanishing point is 60 meters and steady.... I can stop in that 60 meters if need be. I am riding close to the gutter to get the best vision around the corner...Now if a combine harvester or other mahoosive truck starts to come into vision and I need to stop, I won't have that 60 meters anymore, cos the fat bastard will be closing the distance down, so should the rule be " be able to stop in HALF the distance" ?
Not necessarily, you could simply execute the 'Nigel manouever' beautifully demonstrated at the start of this enduring thread and look like a riding god.
Ha ha ...
So Spider .... To answer your question, on the particularly narrow stuff (and especially if you're in a car) then yes, you are absolutely right. Dealing with a broken down horse box just around a corner is one thing, but if it's a horse box that's coming towards you ...
So narrow stuff where two vehicles won't pass .... yes ... your stopping distance has now been halved ..![]()
I see everything ...
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Very interesting this one. Obviously rider error. X2 methinks.
Good on this man for putting this out there. Says a lot about his character.
I've ridden with good class 1 riders, but also with some not so good. However all of them simply would not put out anything that does not show them as a riding god. Fair play to this guy ( Nigel). Shows real humility and I really respect that.
.....The biggest factor IME, in determining whether a trained rider will remain relatively safe is whether they have the self restraint to consistently apply the system with a degree of caution or whether they like to 'let their hair down a bit' now and then. I'm the latter but I recognise the fact and remind myself not to get sloppy.....
You didn't see that bloke who ran off with your clocks![]()
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I wasn't having a pop ! If you had read my earlier response you might not have posted this unreasonable reply.
Ah, I think that may be a bit different. I think there may be an expiry date on having a F1RST, but I may be wrong. I.e. I think after 3 years it reverts to a normal pass, if you want to maintain the 'F1RST' you may need to be retested. As I said, I may be wrong about this but a quick phone call to the number on your IAM Membership Card would confirm whether or not this is the case. I'd be interested to know what they say if you do check.
Bob
No expiry date on a 1st. I hold one for the car courtesy of a Police Advanced ticket from 1996.
For what it's worth I'm a little wary of anyone who announces themself as an advanced rider or driver. You're advanced on the day you pass the test. After that you're as good as your performance on the day. We all make mistakes and have off days, even those who do it professionally.
The video? What others have said. Rider error. Not sure how you can blame the bike or tyres. By the time you get to France you should perhaps have worked out its capabilities? Apologies if that causes offence.
Going a couple of hundred yards before the (national limit) sign is hardly the motoring crime of the week, and the speeding thing I wouldn't give a hoot about, what I would give a hoot about (in a coaching day) is that you have just demonstrated you can't discipline yourself - so if you can't wait two hundred yards for a national, what other bits of your roadcraft are you going to short cut ..

Funny, I thought it was exactly the reverse - you sacrifice positin for safety.....
Example of NEVER sacrificing position fo rsafety:
You take a left hander, position is by the white line...artic truck with wide load coming the other way....but buggered if you are going to lose your position just for the sake of a bit of safety.....ME? I would move out of the way of the D9 on the low loader, thereby sacrificing my position, but keeping safe in the process.
Perhaps I have it all wrong and I am supposed to maintain my line come what may and have my head ripped off by the big, wide load.
First lasts three years unless they've changed that fairly recently. As a Class One you get auto-membership, but if you're taking a test and get given a First, it's only yours for three years...

Ha ha ...
So Spider .... To answer your question, on the particularly narrow stuff (and especially if you're in a car) then yes, you are absolutely right. Dealing with a broken down horse box just around a corner is one thing, but if it's a horse box that's coming towards you ...
So narrow stuff where two vehicles won't pass .... yes ... your stopping distance has now been halved ..![]()
is it not only halved if you are traveling at exactly the same speed as the approaching vehicle?
Very interesting this one. Obviously rider error. X2 methinks.
Good on this man for putting this out there. Says a lot about his character.
I've ridden with good class 1 riders, but also with some not so good. However all of them simply would not put out anything that does not show them as a riding god. Fair play to this guy ( Nigel). Shows real humility and I really respect that.