Mine was a bit clunky before the 1st service now its like a knife thro butter .
Gear changes
- Thread starter biggeorge
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Picked mine up after its 1st service.
Vines found nothing wrong with the gears, and according to BMW you need to give it about 1500miles to bed in properly, but Vines have made a note for future reference.
I didn't get to ride it much on the way home, but I did notice that the 1 -> N seemed to be 90% better than before, without the gears going up into 2 first. Also, the clunk into 1st seemed much less severe.
Vines found nothing wrong with the gears, and according to BMW you need to give it about 1500miles to bed in properly, but Vines have made a note for future reference.
I didn't get to ride it much on the way home, but I did notice that the 1 -> N seemed to be 90% better than before, without the gears going up into 2 first. Also, the clunk into 1st seemed much less severe.
The Hobbit
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I was out at the weekend on mine, and went to change from 3rd to 4th whilst doing an overtake, and either I didn't apply enough pressure, or there's a problem with the gearbox, but the bike didn't go into gear, and then there was an almighty crunch before it slipped into 4th.
Its never happened before, and I had been riding all day so may have been half asleep, so I'll keep an eye on this. Has anyone else experienced this?
I've now adjusted the gear lever a bit higher, and moved the clutch lever out a click, so that may have sorted it. If not, I'll take it down to the dealer to have a look at.
Mine fine, but it used to happen to my TC now and again if I was to wussy with the change
My bike had the first service last week and had a stiffish change but now at 1500 mile it is transformed with smooth easy action.
GC6269
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I thought mine was smooth, but then compared to the Tuono I had previously, most things are!
I rode my late Dad's Pan European last night (brought it home to sell it) and was suprised just how smooth the gear box was and how good the switch gear felt.
This is a 16 year old bike we are talking about.
Don't get me wrong, neither of the above problems are significant enough to over shadow what I think is a cracking bike. But you'd have thought with a little more care BMW could (and should) have done a bit better.
I rode my late Dad's Pan European last night (brought it home to sell it) and was suprised just how smooth the gear box was and how good the switch gear felt.
This is a 16 year old bike we are talking about.
Don't get me wrong, neither of the above problems are significant enough to over shadow what I think is a cracking bike. But you'd have thought with a little more care BMW could (and should) have done a bit better.
shortywilliam
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I took my 3500ml bike back to the dealers again about the gear change from 1-2-3-4..4-5-6 is ok but the lower gear changes are diabolical. I find the gear box worse than a series land rover and by far the worst gear change of all the bikes I have had including 4 gs,s. the loan bike is an f800 and the box on that is perfect so why should I put up with such absolute SHITE on a £14000 bike.
It is that bad that I called into my local Ducati dealer today and they are working me out a price on a Multistrada.
I can only hope they find something wrong with it and don't come back with " they are all like that" as I like the BMW dealer and the bike is great improvement in every other respect.
To summarize on up or down changes it rattles into gear missing about the first second and third tooth then goes in, this when revving it to above 6000rpm .
Also first thing on a morning it is very hard to push in first gear with the clutch in which suggest to me that the clutch is not fully disengaging.
When I placed my order last year I said that I may live to regret buying the first of a new model and I am beginning to think I was right.
I will just have to wait and see what BMW have to say
It is that bad that I called into my local Ducati dealer today and they are working me out a price on a Multistrada.
I can only hope they find something wrong with it and don't come back with " they are all like that" as I like the BMW dealer and the bike is great improvement in every other respect.
To summarize on up or down changes it rattles into gear missing about the first second and third tooth then goes in, this when revving it to above 6000rpm .
Also first thing on a morning it is very hard to push in first gear with the clutch in which suggest to me that the clutch is not fully disengaging.
When I placed my order last year I said that I may live to regret buying the first of a new model and I am beginning to think I was right.
I will just have to wait and see what BMW have to say
alp
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Please keep us posted.
I am going to talk to BMW about this at the BMW bash at Garmisch 1st week of July so would love to know how they react to your all too familiar problem before I go. Assuming the clutch and gearbox survive the journey.
What I got from my dealer was that 'BMW have a team working on it'.
To me it seems the clutch doesn't disengage enough which they could fix by fitting a slightly smaller diameter slave cylinder at the back of the engine. Just a couple of fasteners, replace the cylinder and rebleed the hydraulics. That would move the clutch plates further apart.
I am going to talk to BMW about this at the BMW bash at Garmisch 1st week of July so would love to know how they react to your all too familiar problem before I go. Assuming the clutch and gearbox survive the journey.
What I got from my dealer was that 'BMW have a team working on it'.
To me it seems the clutch doesn't disengage enough which they could fix by fitting a slightly smaller diameter slave cylinder at the back of the engine. Just a couple of fasteners, replace the cylinder and rebleed the hydraulics. That would move the clutch plates further apart.
needlongerlegs
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Oh chaps,
This does sound very similar to the issues I experienced, and that are now sorted.
My clutch was dragging when trying to get neutral and shifting smoothly,
Cannons in Essex replaced the entier clutch and now I'm happy no very happy with the shifting and neutral selection.
The old clutch was not releasing completely clunky old gear changes n generally not very nice shifting in lower gears.
All the best getting it sorted but do quote me and my resolution, its not a major job to swap the clutch out and it seams to have sorted mine.
This does sound very similar to the issues I experienced, and that are now sorted.
My clutch was dragging when trying to get neutral and shifting smoothly,
Cannons in Essex replaced the entier clutch and now I'm happy no very happy with the shifting and neutral selection.
The old clutch was not releasing completely clunky old gear changes n generally not very nice shifting in lower gears.
All the best getting it sorted but do quote me and my resolution, its not a major job to swap the clutch out and it seams to have sorted mine.
To summarize on up or down changes it rattles into gear missing about the first second and third tooth then goes in, this when revving it to above 6000rpm .
Also first thing on a morning it is very hard to push in first gear with the clutch in which suggest to me that the clutch is not fully disengaging.
That sounds more like an actual fault with the clutch\gearbox than a "character" of the bike
I have to agreed. Mine had the complete clutch replacement 2 weeks ago after 4000km. Had 2 GSAs before, so finally bmw convinced themselves that was not a owner related issue, but the assembly or the parts (discs, springs, bearing, etc).
Now I have 5500km and can assure that the draging is gone, finding neutro issues, etc. Never complain before because bought the bike without testing it, so assume it was worse than before.
Quality regarding, i hhaving other issues like switches failures, and some annoying leakage by the new clutch reservoir. Already have the screen replacement that start to crank near one of the screws... Couldbe dealer related since the assembly are made localy.
NB
shortywilliam
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Believe it or not but that's exactly what I am hopeing Then they can fix it and I can just get on with riding it. The problem is getting BMW to admit there is a fault with their new model that has had 1million development miles
Poshtosser
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My new GS has no problem at all with gear changes so it would seem to point to the fact that you DEFINITELY have a problem with your bike and BMW should own up and fix it.
needlongerlegs
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It's a game of two halves,
First half the name of the game is to get your dealer to agree there's a issue.
Pulled up outside workshop said please could some from workshop have a quick look,
Ear mate select neutral make sure its not me being a PR****
Ear mate ride it up road while its hot n change from first to second as you pass me so I can see its me being daft.
Dealer now has to admit there's an issue and report it to Fatherland,
Second half, now hit customer services with I want my bike fixed or replaced asap same time as dealer is raising issue..cover with phone and email
Little bit of luck you win two nil.
First half the name of the game is to get your dealer to agree there's a issue.
Pulled up outside workshop said please could some from workshop have a quick look,
Ear mate select neutral make sure its not me being a PR****
Ear mate ride it up road while its hot n change from first to second as you pass me so I can see its me being daft.
Dealer now has to admit there's an issue and report it to Fatherland,
Second half, now hit customer services with I want my bike fixed or replaced asap same time as dealer is raising issue..cover with phone and email
Little bit of luck you win two nil.
GC6269
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I noticed something when I was out on mine on last Saturday.
I took the baffles out of my Akra pipe, just to see what kind of difference there was. Sat at a rural T junction, with the bike in gear and clutch pulled in, I gave it some decent revs (8k?), I could feel the transmission pulling despite the clutch being fully engaged.
Can't be right, surely?
The bike is going in for its 1st service next week, I'll be mentioning it.
I took the baffles out of my Akra pipe, just to see what kind of difference there was. Sat at a rural T junction, with the bike in gear and clutch pulled in, I gave it some decent revs (8k?), I could feel the transmission pulling despite the clutch being fully engaged.
Can't be right, surely?
The bike is going in for its 1st service next week, I'll be mentioning it.
Wyreflyer
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Picking mine up tomorrow morning, clutch has been replaced. I complained from the word go and finally after 2500miles BMW replaced the clutch, which was dry, no oil getting to it.
Don't think I'll sleep tonight, just hoping that it's now all fixed. I love the bike but it's definitely taken the edge off what should have been a great experience.
Will post results tomorrow night.
Don't think I'll sleep tonight, just hoping that it's now all fixed. I love the bike but it's definitely taken the edge off what should have been a great experience.
Will post results tomorrow night.
shortywilliam
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I know exactly how you feel.
Mine is going in next Thursday I Just hope it fixes it so please keep us informed.
Just a quick question how did you know it was dry and what are they going to do to stop it happening again?
Wyreflyer
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They told me after they'd stripped it down, but no idea what the fix is apart from a new one. 'Needlongerlegs' had his replaced and it's fixed the problem, so fingers and toes crossed!!!
wet clutches running dry is apparently a common problem on yamahas, so i hear.
Mine's is just going in to build this week so hope they've sorted it out now on new builds - strange that its only some bikes though, but a lot of years experience amongst the collective on here tells me summat's not been right
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Hi Mine was built 2nd week of may ive had it 4 weeks and now done 2000 miles and its fine.
ive not had any issues with gears apart from the common in to 1st gear clonk which an issue with all bikes.
its a great bike and handles brilliantly, but don't believe the hype its no fire blade / R1 slayer but it is quick. ooh and comfy.
Terry
Mine's is just going in to build this week so hope they've sorted it out now on new builds - strange that its only some bikes though, but a lot of years experience amongst the collective on here tells me summat's not been right
Hi Mine was built 2nd week of may ive had it 4 weeks and now done 2000 miles and its fine.
ive not had any issues with gears apart from the common in to 1st gear clonk which an issue with all bikes.
its a great bike and handles brilliantly, but don't believe the hype its no fire blade / R1 slayer but it is quick. ooh and comfy.
Terry
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