Hilltop Results on the LC

Yes, during the "Heated Grip" thread, he consistently stated that there was nothing wrong with them. So now that he has a 2015 model with grips that do actually get hot, I would wager that he would not want to swap grips with an early owner.

In fact he could swap with me and I would give him an extra £50 as well.
 
because the twat/**** claims he's some sort of engineer, some people will actually believe his doubts and constant negative comments regarding hilltop, even though he's never been to the place or spoke to the owner, despite the guy's money back guarantee if your not delighted with the remap, it must have hurt his business a little
 
Packer: excellent summary.

The VW stuff is drawing attention to the nonsense which is emission testings. Recent measurements are showing that cars are producing 10x the emissions they are rated at. This isn't because the manufacturers are fiddling the emissions tests: it's because the tests bear no relation to the reality of driving. I'd seriosly bet money that a Hilltoped engine would produce lower emissions in a real life riding than standard. Of course, I have no empirical evidence whatsoever to back this up so apologies for expressing an opinion which probably belongs in Backchat & Bollox but a Hilltoped engine definitely does use less fuel for comparable riding in my experience. (Yes, I do understand that the two aren't directly linked).
 
The Nutty GSER said:
"UK Engineer you really are one of the biggest ***** I have ever come across on any forum I use." :D:D
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I got bored very quickly, but did chuckle at;

He's kind of like a timex watch... He takes a lickin but keeps on ticken...

:clap
 
Now then.

I guess it was inevitable that the 'tuning' virus would eventually find it's way into the mainstream boxer consciousness. After all so many of us came from big Jap fours and have been used to ruining the usability of bikes via same for years.:D

That said the level of technical knowledge in this area on here is generally woeful probably because drag racing and/or top speed records are not too high on the agenda of yer average Tosser and the level of 'performance nerdery' is, for now, relatively low.

Add to that our propensity for worshipping gurus and the varying types and indicative performance of dynos and it's a recipe for several big threads and for this we should be grateful:)

Me?

Came to ownership of 'The slow one' to get away from this malarkey but the 'wokka wokka wokka' of Nam helicopter blades that always accompany these threads propels me back to the paddy fields of Lambda and the misty mountains of forced induction.................

I guess you just had to be there man.:thumb
 
Edvard Munch said:
Now then.

I guess it was inevitable that the 'tuning' virus would eventually find it's way into the mainstream boxer consciousness. After all so many of us came from big Jap fours and have been used to ruining the usability of bikes via same for years.:D

That said the level of technical knowledge in this area on here is generally woeful probably because drag racing and/or top speed records are not too high on the agenda of yer average Tosser and the level of 'performance nerdery' is, for now, relatively low.

Add to that our propensity for worshipping gurus and the varying types and indicative performance of dynos and it's a recipe for several big threads and for this we should be grateful:)

Me?

Came to ownership of 'The slow one' to get away from this malarkey but the 'wokka wokka wokka' of Nam helicopter blades that always accompany these threads propels me back to the paddy fields of Lambda and the misty mountains of forced induction.................

I guess you just had to be there man.:thumb
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But if your Erv Kanemoto or Stan Stevens is a Battle of Britain pilot, isn't "Geoff" just a hoodie wearing drone pilot?

Both get the job done, but only one is worthy of decoration.
 
Packer said:
I asked Geoff, I understand that the original programme is not amended and Geoff's programme will continue to work if BMW updates are installed as confirmed by a previous post in this thread.



I don't know or much care but as most people see an improvement in fuel economy that is less CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere at least. Many people on here will be running non standard headers, cans, air filters etc. that will also impact the emissions. Have you never done anything like fit an aftermarket can?



I asked Geoff, I understand that his software uses data from the standard sensors in just the same way as the base programme from the manufacturer.

His software certainly works. I also found it interesting talking to him prior to handing over a single penny that he told me the gains available on My S10 were nothing like as good as for the GS's as the Yam seems to be closer to optimal than most of the GS's. The torque though, mmmmmm, torque and smooth response, exactly what I asked for, exactly what I got.

I'm confident that racers, especially teams who can probably monitor the track performance, wouldn't be taking their bikes to him if they didn't get results.

Geoff is a really decent fellow, you shouldn't be concerned about going to have a chat with him. make a day out of it with a nice days ride.
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Arrrrrhgggghhhhhhhhh!

I understand that HIS program will continue to work if BMW do an update BUT will the BMW's changes be ignored, I assume so and this is the problem, if BMW issue an update because they consider it vital, will that update do what it was intended to? How can I explain it any simpler?
 
Edvard Munch said:
Now then.

I guess it was inevitable that the 'tuning' virus would eventually find it's way into the mainstream boxer consciousness. After all so many of us came from big Jap fours and have been used to ruining the usability of bikes via same for years.:D

That said the level of technical knowledge in this area on here is generally woeful probably because drag racing and/or top speed records are not too high on the agenda of yer average Tosser and the level of 'performance nerdery' is, for now, relatively low.

Add to that our propensity for worshipping gurus and the varying types and indicative performance of dynos and it's a recipe for several big threads and for this we should be grateful:)

Me?

Came to ownership of 'The slow one' to get away from this malarkey but the 'wokka wokka wokka' of Nam helicopter blades that always accompany these threads propels me back to the paddy fields of Lambda and the misty mountains of forced induction.................

I guess you just had to be there man.:thumb
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I agree the lack of understanding on motorcycle forums is woeful, I would have thought the average BMW owner might have been a bit higher, sadly I am wrong.

How simple are those questions of mine ffs, but there is barely a handful of people who get it - no wonder so many blindly follow the religious leaders and gurus!

I have PMed neoviper one last time and asked those basic simple questions but I am not holding my breath - I guess there is no need for him to answer because there are enough non-thinking people with blind faith for him to make an easy living out of - one despairs at times one really does.
 
bod said:
But if your Erv Kanemoto or Stan Stevens is a Battle of Britain pilot, isn't "Geoff" just a hoodie wearing drone pilot?

Both get the job done, but only one is worthy of decoration.
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Ah I guess if folk think their machines are 'transformed' into something more than a lumpy old big capacity twin or even a better lumpy old big capacity twin who am I to argue:nenau

They may well be right tho' it has to be said that some folk will put up with a deterioration in overall performance in exchange for a few extra ponies to make 'em feel better.;)

Erv and Stan?

Generally not selling the sweat of their brows as being more civilised and more powerful and more economical.

Summat has to give generally speaking:thumb
 
You say about a supposed critical fuel update, all our fuel is pretty stable quality, and the boxer engine well being lumpy but still pretty stable quality. Where are you going with this, what are you expecting to happen?
 
Engineer said:
I agree the lack of understanding on motorcycle forums is woeful, I would have thought the average BMW owner might have been a bit higher, sadly I am wrong.

Engineer, you come across as a condescending twat. Don't speak or assume on my behalf (as a BMW owner of the bike/topic you question) If there is a lack of understanding here it's you and your woeful lack of brains/common sense and ability to debate a topic/discussion sensibly without being offensive.

Do us all a favour and fook off back to yer own comfort zone please.

Moderators, if this post is deemed OTT I apologise for the criticism but sometimes I just feel you have stand up, say yer bit & be counted.

Regards Jonno
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Engineer said:
How simple are those questions of mine ffs,
I have PMed neoviper one last time and asked those basic simple questions but I am not holding my breath - .
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The solution is very simple Engineer - pick up the phone and speak directly to Geoff!
You can ask your questions
You will get answers
You will have an exchange of useful information
You can ask more questions and he may ask questions of you to clarify your concerns.
This will be a much more fruitful interaction than trying to get information on email from a bloke who hardly ever posts on this site.

If you are genuinely interested in finding out answers (as opposed to just trolling) then you would do this simple thing.
 
Toddmeister said:
The solution is very simple Engineer - pick up the phone and speak directly to Geoff!
You can ask your questions
You will get answers
You will have an exchange of useful information
You can ask more questions and he may ask questions of you to clarify your concerns.
This will be a much more fruitful interaction than trying to get information on email from a bloke who hardly ever posts on this site.

If you are genuinely interested in finding out answers (as opposed to just trolling) then you would do this simple thing.
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You don't get it do you?
 
Toddmeister said:
Don't worry, I get it perfectly well! ;)

Are you going to call him today then?
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No, I sent a PM because there is less chance of misunderstanding than a phone call, is that too hard to understand? Anyway will have to wait now because I am out all weekend, will check back late Sunday for a reply.
 
redrick said:
£20 to a charity of your choice says he won't !
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You would win the bet - he's scared of making the phone call as he's worried he won't understand what Geoff is saying to him. This is a common problem with armchair experts as their low self esteem gets exposed. He shouldn't worry though, Geoff will explain in simpleton terms so he should get the gist of it.
 
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