Wilde
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Very big as 7 body, quiet and silky smoooooth. Also versatile as a hatch. Get another Nutty!
Wilde and Insane
Wilde and Insane
Keyless bike how safe.
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Keyless go, great until you start your bike with the keys on the side in the kitchen and ride off , or on the floor where you dropped them without realising or on the picnic table where you last stopped . It ain't no fun being 30/40/100 miles from where you lost/left your keys and now can't start the bike to go back an get them 
I used to see these 5Gts on the road a lot and think just another unnecessary niche vehicle, but then I happened to take a look around one on a used lot and thought the interior design and space was great. Would really love one as the family towing car but out of my price range.
Wilde
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Yep designed by young folk and used by old folk who have lost their marbles.
Wilde and Insane
Wilde and Insane
gramshep
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Keyless go, great until you start your bike with the keys on the side in the kitchen and ride off , or on the floor where you dropped them without realising or on the picnic table where you last stopped . It ain't no fun being 30/40/100 miles from where you lost/left your keys and now can't start the bike to go back an get them
Forgive dumb question, can you turn off the link from the key to the bike? Other would that not mean that within a certain proximity, sitting in a bar with bike out side, or in house garage but key in kitchen someone could just hop,on and push off ?
Sorry if I am missing something here.
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Been there, done that, but it was a great car. I like the look of the M Sport version.
Keyless go, great until you start your bike with the keys on the side in the kitchen and ride off , or on the floor where you dropped them without realising or on the picnic table where you last stopped . It ain't no fun being 30/40/100 miles from where you lost/left your keys and now can't start the bike to go back an get them
Now, why on earth would you leave the keys in the kitchen?
I hired a Harley this in the states this year, whilst it does not have keyless ignition you can remove the key and still use the bike with the keys in your pocket. I think I left the keys in a pannier lock and lost them but did not realise till we stopped 100mls from the last stop, in the middle of nowhere, luckily the panniers were unlocked so at least we could carry on with hols without too much agro.
If the bike had been a keyless type thingy I would have been stuck in the middle of nowhere 100mls from the next destination, 1000mls from the dealer with two very pissed off companions and even worse a, pissed off wife.
With a keyed system if you lose the keys you know where to start looking, where you are now.
I don't believe there is a biker amongst us who hasn't sat on their bike looked down at the ignition , bugger, where is it, then found it in the seat/ pannier lock or on the ground next to you. with the keyless system the next time you notice is when you go till fill up 50mls from home, even worse when you have your house key on there as well. As I get older the likelihood of all this happening gets greater.
I will always go for the keyed option.
If the bike had been a keyless type thingy I would have been stuck in the middle of nowhere 100mls from the next destination, 1000mls from the dealer with two very pissed off companions and even worse a, pissed off wife.
With a keyed system if you lose the keys you know where to start looking, where you are now.
I don't believe there is a biker amongst us who hasn't sat on their bike looked down at the ignition , bugger, where is it, then found it in the seat/ pannier lock or on the ground next to you. with the keyless system the next time you notice is when you go till fill up 50mls from home, even worse when you have your house key on there as well. As I get older the likelihood of all this happening gets greater.
I will always go for the keyed option.
My Multistrada had a button under a small cover at the front of the fuel tank so if you did (somehow) ride off with the key staying at home you could re start the bike by entering a 4 digit pin code. This would enable you to start the bike and ride it normally. Don't know if the BMW version will have an emergency start function if you leave the key at home?
I don't know it this compares to a bike keyless system, but for the last couple of days I have been driving around in a Suzuki Swift with keyless entry and ignition. I just put the fob in my pocket and once there it stays there, with no need to remove it.
Walk to the car, press the button on the door handle to unlock, get in turn ignition on and start. Get to destination, turn ignition off and get out, press button on door handle to lock and walk off. No need to use fob at all, stays in pocket.
I find it quite effective.
If the bike system is as simple, I would have it.
If there is a key needed to open a seat or luggage, then why not just have a separate key.It,s not as if
you open a seat up or luggage as often as you start the bike.
Walk to the car, press the button on the door handle to unlock, get in turn ignition on and start. Get to destination, turn ignition off and get out, press button on door handle to lock and walk off. No need to use fob at all, stays in pocket.
I find it quite effective.
If the bike system is as simple, I would have it.
If there is a key needed to open a seat or luggage, then why not just have a separate key.It,s not as if
you open a seat up or luggage as often as you start the bike.
How good will the fob be when the wife puts your jeans through the wash with it in your pocket.
I was wondering whether the receiver on the bike is in the clocks that are now on ebay.
No, sorry, too many ways for it to go wrong.
I was wondering whether the receiver on the bike is in the clocks that are now on ebay.
No, sorry, too many ways for it to go wrong.
Had keyless ignition and fuel cap on Multi. Rode off at least once with keys in topbox but fortunately realised almost straight away. Biggest problem was fuel cap which only worked when it felt like it. Lost count of the times sat at a pump, switching ignition on and off, trying to get cap to open.
I think it's a solution to a problem that didn't exist and can think of a lot better things to waste money on!!!
I think it's a solution to a problem that didn't exist and can think of a lot better things to waste money on!!!
There's an override code in the event of fob malfunction or loss. Anyone hiring a HD should learn it.
The fob had to be less than two metres away from the bike for it to work. So the simple souls that leave their keys in the house won't be able to start their bike and ride off, in the first place.
On the BMW system is there a way starting the bike if you lose the fob?, perhaps you need the key that was attached to the fob to get under the seat.
The fob had to be less than two metres away from the bike for it to work. So the simple souls that leave their keys in the house won't be able to start their bike and ride off, in the first place.
I use one of my bikes bike several times a week. Keys on a hook by the back door. I drag the bike out of the garage at the rear of the house and park it within a metre of the door. Get my kit on and ride off. Luckily neither bike has keyless go but yes , I am simple enough to ride off without the keys one day IF they were keyless start.
I know of somebody who rode off from a pub having left his Duke keys on the picnic table outside where he'd been sat. Stopped for fuel no key, no start.
cyril
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IF,,,,, it's like / similar to HD s the signal to ignition can get blocked / scrambled at places like Paege , occasional fuel stn, ascot high st ???
Push the bike 20yds or so out of the zone alls fine again . Carry a spare fob battery too . There is a code you decide that's administered using a combination of indicator switch pushes for emergency use .
Push the bike 20yds or so out of the zone alls fine again . Carry a spare fob battery too . There is a code you decide that's administered using a combination of indicator switch pushes for emergency use .
mcinlb
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I do this with my bike keys, hang them on a bmw neck tape thingy when off the bike, not rocket science to do the same with the 'keyless fob' and walk about like medallion man.
Solution in search of a Problem..?
BMW: just build the bikes right
BMW: just build the bikes right
Solution in search of a Problem..?
BMW: just build the bikes right
Exactly
Just concentrate on the important stuff and not the frivolities
As for paying £300 extra for 'keyless'..........BMW, go take a hike
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