New Gearbox and time to reflect...

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I reported that my 800-mile 1200GS was jumping out of gear under load in 2nd gear last week. Well it has been confirmed by the Service Manager at Wollaston.
So now it needs a new gearbox that will be replaced under warranty. Which is a difficult item to track-down in the UK at the moment.
How do I feel about that?
Surprisingly sanguine actually. For these reasons:

1. I am happy (at the moment) with the level of service, communication and above all honesty from Wollaston. They are doing as much as they can under the circumstances to get me back on my bike again.
2. They have lent me an 850R which is keeping me mobile
3. And most important of all - I love this bike enough to suffer the problems.
I am a reformed track/sports rider who thought a tweaked R1 was the solution to all my biking issues.
I needed a bike that would would satisfy me, and at the same time not terrify my wife. I needed a bike we could share. I needed a bike to keep me riding. The R1 would sit dormant between track excursions as there never seemed an appropriate time to take it out.
And the GS is the total opposite.
The R1 was fantastic for about 1% of the time - tracks and deserted A roads when the tyres were warm enough to trust.
The GS is excellent for 90% of the time. It may well lose out to the R1 for grunt, power and extreme handling. And the engine is in truth a bit breathy, oh yes and the back moves around under power when cornering, but this only adds to the fun. Why are all sports bikes not using Trail-bike tyres?
But most of all I love having twice the fun at half the speed. With the comfort of a penthouse view.
I have really enjoyed exploring back-roads and cart-tracks - not seeking out A-roads and roundabouts.
And in the final analysis that's why I am pretty happy. I miss the bike, I want it back and I trust BMW to get it fixed.
Am I a naive, optimistic, Love-struck fool?
Discuss?
 
Postscript to a eulogy (Indicators)

The person who invented those bloody indicators should be strapped to the person who persists in fitting them at the BMW factory. They should then be set-too with a flame-thrower. I have almost entirely stopped indicating my intentions to fellow road-users in favour of an almost obligatory apologetic wave.
I find it hard to verbalise what nonsensical crap they are? Whose thumb can articulate comfortably in that direction on a rolling throttle?
 
Good to see you're enjoying the experience. I too have found my 1200 bringing the fun back into bikes after some more performance orientated models.

As for the indicators, why not pause on the throttle rolling for the milli second it takes to thumb the switch?

Not the best design but I find I get used to 'em.

Peter
 
apollo13

As an ex R1 addict i agree very much with your summary....
and i feel i'm better now (GS on the NHS anyone???)
sounds like your dealers 'sorting it' though and you've been unlucky - as have quite a few other's with the 12 to be honest........but as they say..... 'such is life'.....and she is worth it :)
 
Re: Postscript to a eulogy (Indicators)

apoll013 said:
The person who invented those bloody indicators should be strapped to the person who persists in fitting them at the BMW factory. They should then be set-too with a flame-thrower. I have almost entirely stopped indicating my intentions to fellow road-users in favour of an almost obligatory apologetic wave.
I find it hard to verbalise what nonsensical crap they are? Whose thumb can articulate comfortably in that direction on a rolling throttle?
Sorry Apollo13, but you are very wrong. BMW indicator switches are far superior for real world, systematic riding. You will get used to them, given time.
 
Apollo, I wholeheartedly agree - even if I had a GSX-R1000 (faster :P) - the bike is brill, but the indicator system is the most c**p thing they've ever come up with - there's a whole thread about it somewhere.

Even if "you get used to it" it's still a bad design - especially if you're riding a bit more "vigorously" :P :D

Let's hope you get your bike sorted soon and that we'll see you out there in no time! :D

:beerjug:
 
Re: Re: Postscript to a eulogy (Indicators)

Dave Price said:
Sorry Apollo13, but you are very wrong. BMW indicator switches are far superior for real world, systematic riding. You will get used to them, given time.

I fully agree. I find using them intuitive and easier than the standard layout on other bikes. My other bike has those push to cancel indicator button, and I find if I have pulled the clutch in, and then try to pull or push the indicator button, it's a difficult to do, especially with thick winter gloves.

I would not want to go back to switch gear like that on a BMW.
 
Apollo

I can only agree with you regarding the great level of service that is offered by Woolaston. I live over 50 miles away from Woolaston but still always take my bike back for service etc.. as they always treat you like a human rather than just another idiot that they can get some money out of like some of the more local dealers.

Simon
 
Joker

I completely agree with you, i have had my GS over a year now and still hate the indicator switches . I still have to look at the console to check i have switched them off.
Worse though has got to be the horn, the button is so stiff and awkward to use i have given up trying to honk.
Why no flash button as well? i have also given up flashing people on because again, i seem to have to look at the button to remember how it works, so used to the Jap style momentary flash switch and i still miss it.
 
Gearbox hmmmmm

This morning took my bike into the dealer for its 10000k service - just got a call, the gearbox seal is gone and its leaking oil internally. They have to strip the box and need the bike for 2 days - they reckon its an assembly problem !!
 
Last 2 mornings I have noticed that the first few changes were a bit 'crunchy' but I put this down to it being a few degrees cooler these days, once warm it was no problem.

No jumping out of gear or anything like that

Will know more later today

Mike
 
Gearbox query

Mike,
Is it worse from 1-neutral-2 and back rather than further up the box?
That is how mine started if I think about it. In general I have found the gearboxes to be more enigmatic than a japanese bike.
The service manager at Wollaston is mostly in favour of letting gearboxes settle down rather than meddling - which sounds right to me. I would have gone for this but my bike was hard to trust in town.
Good luck with your bike.
 
and you've been unlucky - as have quite a few other's with the 12 to be honest........but as they say..... 'such is life'.....and she is worth it

Mug
 
tricolourforever said:

Great, its word association!

Back to our little french friend with.............




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:D

I always get dragged down.....
 
and you've been unlucky - as have quite a few other's with the 12 to be honest........but as they say..... 'such is life'.....and she is worth it

Ah ok.....so quite a few others have faired no more than bad luck?

Mug
 


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