The best just got better.

[mrtee43]

it's a cracking bike.

Maybe it is, but that thing was styled by Stevie Wonder. The BMW GS 1200 LC looks miles better.

 

[Deleted account 251212001]

Not liking that white monstrosity of a front mudguard on the Katoooom. Wouldn't stop me buying one though.

 

[Giles]

Had a test on one back in the end of the summer, and yes, it's a good bike. It's got that monster engine in I can see it devouring distance.

It didn't strike me as a 'play' bike though. It was quite a lump to chuck around the back lanes, I very much see it as a big uber continental tourer, Day 1 and you're already crossing the Millau Bridge ...

Come retirement, time on my hands, trips to do and countries to see ..... that's the time for something like that for me ..

 

[Reggie P]

I thought about a KTM 1290 super adventure but from my perspective there are three main reasons for not choosing a KTM
1) Chain drive - shaft is just so more convenient.
2) Dealer network - it is quite limited, I'd have to travel much further if I had problems - BMW dealers are a step up over KTM.
3) Lastly but not least, I like the GS LC, it is just that bit classier in my opinion.

Oh nearly forgot - I like the Telever suspension more than conventional forks.

Don't get me wrong , I love KTM's , all of them ....but its funny how the KTM enthusiasts and those odd Honda AT buyers seem myopic with these hugely important factors.

 

[Giles]

Don't get me wrong , I love KTM's , all of them ....but its funny how the KTM enthusiasts and those odd Honda AT buyers seem myopic with these hugely important factors.

That's because those enthusiasts are passionate about how a bike feels through the seat of their pants, how it talks to them, how involving it is to ride .... And that to me is more important (like on an every time I ride the bike importance), than where my nearest dealer is on the off chance that I break down, (which hasn't happened to me in twenty years) or whether I have to get on my knees once a week for ten minutes and clean a chain with a bit of paraffin ..!

 

[Engineer]

It all comes down to what you want, like or need - to suit my requirements only one bike on the market comes close, all the others have missed the sweet spot compromise being all things to all men - this is the reason that the GS has remained the best sellar for so long.

The AT is better off road apparently, but it has made sacrifices elsewhere, all the journalists in all the bike magazines have picked up and reported these compromises.

 

[Nice 'n' Fat]

I doubt it very much, reason there discounted is because there's a few dealers with 2015 bikes, £13750 was the best I found without haggling.

it's a cracking bike.

That's a very good price for a UK Dealer supplied bike

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

That's because those enthusiasts are passionate about how a bike feels through the seat of their pants, how it talks to them, how involving it is to ride ........................n ..!

'tis a funny thing but also hardly surprising;

Those that value order in their lives, who hate to be outside of their comfort zone, who see the world as black and white/right and wrong, who value efficiency and lack imagination, are unable to think outside of the box and who over think things are inexorably drawn to that bastion of Teutonic, soulless efficiency, a WBM motorcycle. They are the sort of people who have read in a book that says there is some significant art to be seen in a large museum in Madrid, go and see it and tick that off their list, job done.

Then there are the sort that value a bit of passion in their lives. They understand the world is not perfect but accept, nay celebrate that. They like a bit of a challenge, it makes them feel alive. They aren't sheep, they don't follow the crowd. They have a pop at most things, sometimes getting it wrong but not giving a shit. They love soul and value diversity in all things. There is no right or wrong just experiences to be had. They, in short, are drawn to bikes that make their souls soar and make them feel alive. The sort of bikes that come out of Austria and Italy. They are the sort of people that have chatted to a local in a bar in Barcelona and got invited to a lock-in in a small Tapas bar, still drinking Spanish brandy at seven in the morning.



Andres

 

[Giles]

Bloody hell .... That's some herbal tea you've had this morning!

But you're absolutely spot on ...!

 

[crotchrocket]

then there's those who ditch KTM, because of the shitty dealer, their lies and the 990 Adventure that requires a lot of money to do high mileage, although still my favourite bike EVER ......so turn to BMW as an efficient, reliable tool to get too / from work on but then find it breaks just as much

hey ho.

p.s. isn't this a BMW forum??

 

[Engineer]

That's because those enthusiasts are passionate about how a bike feels through the seat of their pants, how it talks to them, how involving it is to ride .... And that to me is more important (like on an every time I ride the bike importance), than where my nearest dealer is on the off chance that I break down, (which hasn't happened to me in twenty years) or whether I have to get on my knees once a week for ten minutes and clean a chain with a bit of paraffin ..!

We all like different things, be it bikes, women, food or whatever - for example I discovered that Tapas is basically shit but there are other things to like about Spain otherwise I wouldn't be going back in September. I use a bike as my main transport so need something that has to be a great ride but low maintenance and good local dealer backup is just as important.

 

[Sleepy]

Jeez.. there's some pretentious bollocks written here about a fucking motorbike..!!

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

Jeez.. there's some pretentious bollocks written here about a fucking motorbike..!!

It's true though isn't it, g'on admit it

Andres

 

[Mawnanian]

Delete

 

[brut33]

Jeez.. there's some pretentious bollocks written here about a fucking motorbike..!!

I was thinking the same:

 

[Mawnanian]

'tis a funny thing but also hardly surprising;

Those that value order in their lives, who hate to be outside of their comfort zone, who see the world as black and white/right and wrong, who value efficiency and lack imagination, are unable to think outside of the box and who over think things are inexorably drawn to that bastion of Teutonic, soulless efficiency, a WBM motorcycle. They are the sort of people who have read in a book that says there is some significant art to be seen in a large museum in Madrid, go and see it and tick that off their list, job done.

Then there are the sort that value a bit of passion in their lives. They understand the world is not perfect but accept, nay celebrate that. They like a bit of a challenge, it makes them feel alive. They aren't sheep, they don't follow the crowd. They have a pop at most things, sometimes getting it wrong but not giving a shit. They love soul and value diversity in all things. There is no right or wrong just experiences to be had. They, in short, are drawn to bikes that make their souls soar and make them feel alive. The sort of bikes that come out of Austria and Italy. They are the sort of people that have chatted to a local in a bar in Barcelona and got invited to a lock-in in a small Tapas bar, still drinking Spanish brandy at seven in the morning.



Andres

So which one are you then?

 

[Giles]

Ha ha .... Andres has it in one!!! It's about life!! It's about something that either makes you feel alive or not!
(And for the record .. A perfect night for me would be a warm balmy evening, cold beers on the go, a big group of friends at a Spanish bar and tapas on flow all night ...!!)

 

[Engineer]

Ha ha .... Andres has it in one!!! It's about life!! It's about something that either makes you feel alive or not!
(And for the record .. A perfect night for me would be a warm balmy evening, cold beers on the go, a big group of friends at a Spanish bar and tapas on flow all night ...!!)

Some people don't need things to feel alive, I feel alive all the time

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

So which one are you then?

I ride a Tomos so feck knows

Andres

 

[Mawnanian]

I ride a Tomos so feck knows

Andres

Ah, so you either need psychiatric help or you're a motorcycle messiah, can't make my mind up��
I had a BSA Bantam once, that really was living life on the edge.