You may be right, but we will only know after a couple of yearsthese bikes are fucking shite and worthless used.
buy cheap buy twice.
Try selling a one used
You may be right, but we will only know after a couple of yearsthese bikes are fucking shite and worthless used.
buy cheap buy twice.
Try selling a one used
How many NTs do you ever see on the road.I think he’s talking bollox. Bit like when he said the NT1100 was a poor seller , having described the best selling sports tourer in Europe .
Loncin make 2,500,000 motorcycles a year . And 3,000,000 engines per year .
The Voge has the same frame , engine, wheels, suspension, brakes and electronics as the BMW F900GS.
Which part does R1200RT think will be unreliable?
You're back to your own very blinkered UK view....How many NTs do you ever see on the road.
hardly any
I’ve seen loads in Europe . Don’t ride in uk.How many NTs do you ever see on the road.
hardly any
You beat me to it.You're back to your own very blinkered UK view....
Motorcycle sales in Europe are up 13%.....while dealerships close in the UK as bike sales fall.....
Unfortunately there are some on here that are more than a bit stupid .Huge interest in these at the NEC on Monday when I went and everyone i spoke to thought it looked a great bike at a great price.
Unless you really, really, really wanted a BMW, you would be a bit stupid not to consider this as an option.
All the Voge range looks pretty well put together as did the Kove bikes which sell really well apparently.
I'll definitely be looking at something like this when the S10 gets a bit big to push around.
You need to open your mind. You have a very blinkered way of looking at things.How many NTs do you ever see on the road.
hardly any
According to my local dealer it’s only a national warranty with no recovery on it.Whats the international dealership warranty and recovery support like?
We were looking at them yesterday at the show. As you say they do look pretty well made and specd up. The Kove also look pretty well made and are probably a very good trail bike.Huge interest in these at the NEC on Monday when I went and everyone i spoke to thought it looked a great bike at a great price.
Unless you really, really, really wanted a BMW, you would be a bit stupid not to consider this as an option.
All the Voge range looks pretty well put together as did the Kove bikes which sell really well apparently.
I'll definitely be looking at something like this when the S10 gets a bit big to push around.
Perhaps there was no wing because there’s no significant changes this year.We were looking at them yesterday at the show. As you say they do look pretty well made and specd up. The Kove also look pretty well made and are probably a very good trail bike.
When my S10 was getting a bit old I bought a Rally Pro 900. Had the Voge been around I just might have gone that way.
My brother had gone to look at the new GSA, he wasn’t impressed so that’s off the list at the moment.
Honda had a good stand but the wing was conspicuous by its absence.
Perhaps,but there was new the version of my Rally pro on the triumph stand and it has no huge changes. The BMW version of the wing was there and seemed to be drawing quite a bit interest. The Indian version was also there, we didn’t look on the Harley stand.Perhaps there was no wing because there’s no significant changes this year.
Loncin, who make the Voge make 3.5 million engines a year , many of those for BMW.The warranty will be the issue I'm betting.
I'm not hell bent against Chinese bikes. But I've had a Chinese vehicle before, and the warranty was worthless, and parts supply even worse. Especially on a popular model.
Taking broken engine castings to machine shops and trying to find someone to repair (porous) aluminium is no fun.
If they've got this right then fair enough. But I will be watching and not jumping in personally for a few years yet.
What vehicle pray tell? I need to add it to my “DO NOT BUY” list.Taking broken engine castings to machine shops and trying to find someone to repair (porous) aluminium is no fun.
My missus also cooks amazing food at dinner parties, but average evening meal is shit, same chef.Loncin, who make the Voge make 3.5 million engines a year , many of those for BMW.
By your reckoning , many GS owners will also have to take their engine castings to machine shops if one of the biggest engine manufacturers in the world somehow have no spares .
Maybe YOU don’t see many NTs but there are a good number around particularly on mainland Europe.How many NTs do you ever see on the road.
hardly any
I think you’re right. That’s a good thing possibly. How often do you notice bikes for the wrong reason ?Maybe YOU don’t see many NTs but there are a good number around particularly on mainland Europe.
Personally I think the looks are a bit bland so perhaps they’re not particularly noticeable.