Hilltop Results on the LC
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Oh Feck not another Hilltop thread
FUCK FUCK FUCK, NOT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think you should give Geoff a ring and speak to him about it or perhaps attend one of his open days
No point we have far more knowledgable people at work.
If BMW release a critical upgrade to the firmware you will lose the re-map - you will then have the choice of staying with the BMW update or getting the re-mapper to re-install their code which will then overwrite the BMW critical update which may have been safety related. Even if the re-mapper can take the critical update into account you will have this faff each time BMW issue a firmware update.
By the way emissions will no longer meet the EU requirements after a re-map, which may or may not bother you.
But if you spend £350 on an end can, you do get something that looks & sounds nice .. and you get some money back when you sell it on.
You on the other hand are just buying a download.
For what it's worth my first 1200GS had been Hilltopped before I had it.
I have no idea if it improved the bike, all I know is it felt like a bag of shite after the Honda missile I had just moved on.
But this was a good thing & part of my plan to move away from warp speed, as I found flawless perfection pretty dull actually, and a risky game to play in Big brother Britain.
Next came the Twin Cam, another step up from the Hilltopped early model, punchier, livelier and more spirited ... brilliant bike!
And now we have the LC version, faster and more refined still & dangerously close to what I was trying to get away from when I got the first GS.
I don't need any more power.
I couldn't give a shiny shite if their is a dip at 5000 rpm.
I have no problem with a bit of vibration or if the fuelling's a bit lumpy at low speed.
It's a boxer twin, it's supposed to have character .... Plenty of other bikes available if bland forward motion is your thing!
But if you spend £350 on an end can, you do get something that looks & sounds nice .. and you get some money back when you sell it on.
You on the other hand are just buying a download.
For what it's worth my first 1200GS had been Hilltopped before I had it.
I have no idea if it improved the bike, all I know is it felt like a bag of shite after the Honda missile I had just moved on.
But this was a good thing & part of my plan to move away from warp speed, as I found flawless perfection pretty dull actually, and a risky game to play in Big brother Britain.
Next came the Twin Cam, another step up from the Hilltopped early model, punchier, livelier and more spirited ... brilliant bike!
And now we have the LC version, faster and more refined still & dangerously close to what I was trying to get away from when I got the first GS.
I don't need any more power.
I couldn't give a shiny shite if their is a dip at 5000 rpm.
I have no problem with a bit of vibration or if the fuelling's a bit lumpy at low speed.
It's a boxer twin, it's supposed to have character .... Plenty of other bikes available if bland forward motion is your thing!
Thank fuck for common sense. You have hit the nail on the head, Bod.
I would rather spend £350 on fuel and go explore.
BB
It's got to go then Royal Enfield it is then 
Well the £350 I've spent is a fraction of the money you have spent /lost on upgrading to twin cam then LC it has made my bike a keeper a much better running boxer with all the character if not more but if I want ballistic I take the fireblade outBut if you spend £350 on an end can, you do get something that looks & sounds nice .. and you get some money back when you sell it on.
You on the other hand are just buying a download.
For what it's worth my first 1200GS had been Hilltopped before I had it.
I have no idea if it improved the bike, all I know is it felt like a bag of shite after the Honda missile I had just moved on.
But this was a good thing & part of my plan to move away from warp speed, as I found flawless perfection pretty dull actually, and a risky game to play in Big brother Britain.
Next came the Twin Cam, another step up from the Hilltopped early model, punchier, livelier and more spirited ... brilliant bike!
And now we have the LC version, faster
Good to see some more sanity
Oh sweet jesus!
You're the self-professed "engineer" who maintained throughout an entire thread - that pulling in the clutch lever on an LC............. increased the power!
You're a software "technician" at best, who continually refuses to talk to Geoff at Hilltop - while spouting uninformed shit about "overwriting maps!"
Now there is Bod, who can't see investment in systems, research etc - as having to be paid for at point of sale. The sort of person who would probably decry the cost of a sandwich from a supermarket or train station - on the basis that he could make the same sandwich at home for 1/4 the price.
Oink-Oink.
you are wrong - the previous contents of the memory get overwritten, there is no other way of putting data into re-writeable memory.
Oh sweet jesus!
You're the self-professed "engineer" who maintained throughout an entire thread - that pulling in the clutch lever on an LC............. increased the power!
You're a software "technician" at best, who continually refuses to talk to Geoff at Hilltop - while spouting uninformed shit about "overwriting maps!"
Now there is Bod, who can't see investment in systems, research etc - as having to be paid for at point of sale. The sort of person who would probably decry the cost of a sandwich from a supermarket or train station - on the basis that he could make the same sandwich at home for 1/4 the price.
Oink-Oink.
Wrong - I didn't say that pulling in the clutch lever increases the power, I said the opposite so please before you spout even more nonsense go read. If you wish to explain what the two clutch switches do on the LC then go ahead but I doubt that you know the first thing about it.
P.S I am a hardware engineer and in the past have designed and written embedded firmware in both C and assembler as part of my job.
Try speaking to the guy and LISTENING to his explanation of what he does and doesn't do before preaching. You might learn something.
Excellent another Hilltop thread 
Since having a Hilltop remap on my LC I can confirm that:
My emissions have gone up
My warranty, insurance and first marriage have been voided
My fuel consumption has gone up (or is it down
- maybe my memory has been overwritten!)
My share portfolio has definitely gone down
I've had at least two software upgrades so everything has disappeared anyway, or has it?
My children cry every time I start the bike up (it's a bit loud yer know)
My wife is older than Geoff's girlfriend (but only just)
That bloody Italian Hippy on the KTM still has more bhp than me
There's an angry elf in Scotland who got better results using a Dynojet
I have to get up in the night for a pee!
Despite all of the above I still have a hoot every time I get on the bike so maybe life ain't so bad after all
Since having a Hilltop remap on my LC I can confirm that:
My emissions have gone up
My warranty, insurance and first marriage have been voided
My fuel consumption has gone up (or is it down
- maybe my memory has been overwritten!)My share portfolio has definitely gone down
I've had at least two software upgrades so everything has disappeared anyway, or has it?
My children cry every time I start the bike up (it's a bit loud yer know)
My wife is older than Geoff's girlfriend (but only just)
That bloody Italian Hippy on the KTM still has more bhp than me
There's an angry elf in Scotland who got better results using a Dynojet
I have to get up in the night for a pee!
Despite all of the above I still have a hoot every time I get on the bike so maybe life ain't so bad after all
I asked Geoff or whatever his online persona is to answer several points that had been posted on one of the Hilltop threads, he didn't answer my PM but instead found the time to post on the thread saying that he was too busy to answer the questions - if he can speak the answers at an open day then he has time to write them down. I have no axe to grind with any particular re-mapper but as soon as you ask them to write an explanation they run scared, why? The guff about trade secrets is a cop out.
Why should he explain on here? Has has enough business to not give two shits what you think, but he put out an open invitation so that you could go along, and see exactly how it worked. He even offered food and drink to anyone attending. You chose not to go, which says a lot about you.
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he can do whatever he wants, and you are correct there are plenty of people who buy into the re-mapping stuff with not wanting to understand anything about it - good luck to them. Why are you and others so bothered about my questions and scepticism, you must have some niggling doubts, what do you fear from perfectly reasonable questions?
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